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coalminer

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Someone tried to give one of these 4000 lb loads to my wife yesterday, she was told it was 1 skid, 1500lbs. Well, it ended up as 3 skids, the one that weighed 1500, another one that was 2200, and a3rd that im guessing was about 500 or so. She called me freaking out saying that there was something wrong with the van, luckily she was only about 10 miles from me and had only made it a mile from the pickup.

We have an extended E350 and they had loaded the 2200lb skid last, I wish I would have taken a picture of that thing squatting. Needless to say we went back, they ended up sending another van and we split the load, was only 78 miles.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Someone tried to give one of these 4000 lb loads to my wife yesterday, she was told it was 1 skid, 1500lbs. Well, it ended up as 3 skids, the one that weighed 1500, another one that was 2200, and a3rd that im guessing was about 500 or so. She called me freaking out saying that there was something wrong with the van, luckily she was only about 10 miles from me and had only made it a mile from the pickup.

We have an extended E350 and they had loaded the 2200lb skid last, I wish I would have taken a picture of that thing squatting. Needless to say we went back, they ended up sending another van and we split the load, was only 78 miles.

Putting the 2200 lb skid on the tail caused the problem. The extended E-350 has quite an overhang, and even if that skid had been by itself that was the wrong place for it.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
2012 3500 sprinter #5638 buddy of mine just bought one. That is a curb weight figure one sleeper and personal items are in place the calculated guess is around 2800 to 3000 for freight.

That is why we are knocking heads here....the pre07 sprinters are 4" narrower, 2" less in height and almost 2 feet shorter...and the older ones only have a 5 cylinder compared to the new 6 cylinder and DPF junk all for added weight....two completely different animals here....
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
Tell you what, it's a marketing scam .
all the carrier want is to get the call.
then, that virtual sprinter becomes just about what ever can be worked with the shipper.
 

ntimevan

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Ban the sprinters,,,,,make taller tuna can vans .....aka slop buckets,,,

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
2012 3500 sprinter #5638 buddy of mine just bought one. That is a curb weight figure one sleeper and personal items are in place the calculated guess is around 2800 to 3000 for freight.

That is what I was talking about load capacity is not 4300....ya have to subtract all the "stuff" we carry and driver weight as well....a team would lower that even more...
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
It's really very simple. A carrier either demands a scale ticket and doesn't offer loads that put a driver over, or they ignore it Caveat emptor, or somethin'

I know of one carrier that can complicate the simple. This carrier demands a scale ticket, which I find not only reasonable, but the proper and legal thing to do. The complications arise when dispatch ignores the scale ticket and offers a load that exceeds one's legal weight.

Once at the shipper, a driver with past experience with said shipper, and the ability to estimate freight weight by sight and physically moving freight, can get a fairly accurate weight estimate. Driver estimated weight is less than shipper's guesstimated weight on B.O.L. Driver loads freight, 50 miles down the road Safety goes ballistic. Driver gets reamed for taking a load exceeding his weight capacity. Driver explains his method of estimating freight and the fact that he has a built-in fudge factor on his scale ticket for just such occasions. Safety is still livid! Diver asks Safety why a load showing 250# over capacity was offered. Silence, followed by B.S. backpedaling. Driver states he is delivering load and will weight it at consignee. If over weight carrier can eat driver and driver's contract for lunch. Consignee's scale shows freight to weigh more than experienced driver's estimate, but still legal.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I know of one carrier that can complicate the simple. This carrier demands a scale ticket, which I find not only reasonable, but the proper and legal thing to do. The complications arise when dispatch ignores the scale ticket and offers a load that exceeds one's legal weight.

Once at the shipper, a driver with past experience with said shipper, and the ability to estimate freight weight by sight and physically moving freight, can get a fairly accurate weight estimate. Driver estimated weight is less than shipper's guesstimated weight on B.O.L. Driver loads freight, 50 miles down the road Safety goes ballistic. Driver gets reamed for taking a load exceeding his weight capacity. Driver explains his method of estimating freight and the fact that he has a built-in fudge factor on his scale ticket for just such occasions. Safety is still livid! Diver asks Safety why a load showing 250# over capacity was offered. Silence, followed by B.S. backpedaling. Driver states he is delivering load and will weight it at consignee. If over weight carrier can eat driver and driver's contract for lunch. Consignee's scale shows freight to weigh more than experienced driver's estimate, but still legal.

I can not even begin to count how many times I've been caught up in that just "a little bit over" situation....that is why it is good to leave some wiggle room in your weight listing....
 
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