Ticket for in cab control

[ihamner]

We just had a couple tell us that the controls in the truck, which we are getting for the new axle, (to raise and lower it) can be ticketed in some states. A friend of theirs got a ticket at a scale because he was told that he could raise and lower the axle as he approached a weigh station and that was illegal in some states. YIKES! Ours is being installed already.

What are your thoughts on this? Have you ever heard of such a thing?

India Hamner
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[davekc]

Yes that is accurate. We almost had a driver get one last year on I 10.
Your state is Louisiana. They require the controls to be out of the drivers reach. Most install the controls in the side box in that state.
No idea what the fine would be? Might vary depending on the parish.







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[RichM]

They will also nail you in Canada for the inside control.

 

[davekc]

Now I learned something. Wasn't aware of that in Canada. We dodged some bullets up there considering that.







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[nightcreacher]

georgia too

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I believe I heard Arkansa mentioned awhile back as well.

 

[layoutshooter]

Who would have to pay that ticket? The driver or the owner of the truck? Seems that would be unfair to a person/team that drives another persons truck. We had problems in Canada but skated by without a ticket. Layoutshooter

 

[terryandrene]

This is one reason why written lease agreements are necessary for lessor and lessee to each understand their responsibilities and liabilities.

At this point is doesn't matter which States require external controls; the moral of the thread is to ensure all trucks have internal controls replaced by external controls.

 

[davekc]

The owner of the truck should pay the fines or tickets because of the way the truck is speced. Or at least, that is my opinion.








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[x06col]

This is an offense in any state, some use it as a source of revenue more than others. If the convienience of having the controls in the truck outweighs any penalty you may get, it's a mute issue. If whom is going to pay the fine, in case of one, then move the control, and it's still a mute issue. Personnaly, I wouldn't want to stumble, or store things around that thing all the time. Cabs get too small without non esential items in there.

 

[tom tinker]

I would think installer should know the laws, and in form customers of this before, installing these things? Th company I worked for knew all dot insp. stuff I would think thee things should be in their knowledge range!!! Sincerely Tom Tinkerx(

 

[Broompilot]

Question to this Post;

If the truck is underweight than why would a ticket be issued?

If the truck is not legal on 2 axles and has the tag down, and has been driving this why I just do not get it why would you run with 14K and not have the tag down? Seems to me it would be to harmfull to the rears, with no benefit if the tags were raised.

Thanks

 

[highway star]

It has nothing to do with the weight of the truck. If this were found during an inspection a ticket could be issued.

 

[cheri1122]

Highway Star is correct, the weight doesn't matter, only what's legal. I was ticketed in Tennessee once, for running on the interstate, with rear axle on an empty 53 ft trailer slid all the way back. I hadn't known it was against the law, but that doesn't matter either. If it's not legal, you can get a ticket, and with states getting less federal money these days, they're needing to make up for it somehow. Run legal and make them use their brains for a change, lol.

 

[Broompilot]

Than why would one install the controls on the inside? What would be the advantage?

 

[snowball]

First, the truck we drive is a single drive axle, but both my wife and I have driven dump trucks that have a drop axle, and they all have the controls next to the driver, for if you are maxed out, and try to do a tight turn, you have to lift the axle for the steers to grab. I have watched drivers trying to turn with drops down, and they double to triple the turn rate. Just my 2 cents....
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[TeamCaffee]

On really rough roads you can adjust the pressure on the axle and smooth out the ride some. We have found that this happens to us most often on I10 and guess what state?

TerryandRene' what is the world does this paragraph mean?

At this point is doesn't matter which States require external controls; the moral of the thread is to ensure all trucks have internal controls replaced by external controls.

 

[jackdixon_2000]

My understanding of the lift axle laws in most states is that the switch can be in the cab but the air pressure regulator must be on the outside. I have only heard of one person who got a ticket in Louisiana for inside lift axle control. My current truck and prior have the inside switch and outside control and I have not had a problem at any scale.

As far as Georgia law it appears that the lift axle issue mostly pertains to permit loads. Lift axles are not permitted on oversize vehicles.
I have looked for and read CMV codes for different states and the wording is rather vague and confusing to me. For now I will just keep runnin the way I am and see what happens.
Not that I am advocating this but one trick if you don't want to loose control of dropping the axle from inside the cab is to install a 2nd swith on the outside to drop and raise the axle if asked.
On a humorous note, I was lookin over the Hendrickson website tonight and thought I would call the technical support number at 866 743 3247
well, I didn't have my reading glasses on when I jotted down the number and thought it was an 800 number or just assumed. Anyway, was shocked to hear "Hey man, whats up, I know, for the hottest one on one male action blah blah blah" Anyway Hendrickson is 866 NOT 800 lol

 

[gavinsdad]

I have a Class 8 single-axle with a pusher axle and an in-cab-control. I was given the impression by the dealer that keeping the pusher down while turning corners especially under a heavy load was hard on the pusher axle and should not be done. Is this wrong? Can you actually leave the pusher down around corners and not risk damaging pusher axle? Somebody please set me straight here because I am at a total loss.

 

[highway star]

The closer the axle is to the front, the more of a problem it will be. In dump trucks, the pusher is sometimes real close to the front. For the wheelbase of the average expedite truck, it shouldn't be a problem.