This Has To Be Answered

[LisaLouHoo]

I am not surprised my previous thread got locked, but guess what? It got locked before I saw the following gem appear...

I do believe I have the right to address what JD Clark posted since he publicly directed it at me...

Lisa woohoo, your man was terminated because he only wanted part-time work. Nothing personal.

As far as anyone goin any farther on this post will only show your ignorance.

Sorry, Dave, but this had to be addressed...

So the nonsensical reasons given by JD for letting drivers go WERE LIES.

He just admitted it.

Remember, I was privy to what he told Jeffman164 and he surely DID NOT tell Jeff it was because he felt Jeff wasn't running enough for him (read the original post in the thread "The Inevitable Begins" for the reasons given by JD).

Jeffman164 did take time off to perform work in his landscape design and installation business. He has that option. Freight hasn't been running well for some time anyway, no fault of any carrier...if the freight isn't there, it just isn't there. The few load offers that came through JD weren't as profitable as he would have liked, but that can happen.

But to say he only wanted to be part-time is an unfair assumption based on the low number of load offers he had from JD Clark in the first place. Not blaming JD for that. The freight in the area apparently hasn't been there.

What would have been neato-keen? IF in fact this is the real reason he let Jeff go, that he would have been HONEST and ADULT enough to oh, I don't know...tell him the truth?!?

I have a gut feeling this is another deflection of the real truth. I am to the point of being suspicious of anything JD says....he just proved it in the above quote.

Not to mention the sophomoric jab at my user name. How precious. And telling.

Continuing the thread wouldn't show anyone else's ignorance...it only allows those who were lied to or witnessed said fibs firsthand to respond...and maybe, by the thread being locked out, this wouldn't happen and I would have the burden of being made a fool...

No way. Because I didn't lie.

"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c.2008"

 

[Turtle]

That's is... keep digging... you'll dig yourself out of that hole eventually.

 

[paullud]

So instead of JD Clark saying you are not doing enough work which could imply he thought this driver was lazy he tried to do it in a manner that could keep the driver from having hurt feelings and you have an issue with that. Why does it matter the end result is the same? I am not sure why you would complain about a joke about your name or say it is sophomoric given the way you started the issue as an attack and continue to try and stir up the issue like a high school teenager. I am not trying to be mean but let it go, people have their opinions and you attacking people in public makes you look immature.

 

[danthewolf00]

paul
jd clark is a ceo of said companey i would think he would act like j elliot load-1 but i guess not.when your the boss of the companey you have to set higher standards as to how you act in public.

 

[blizzard2014]

Well it appears as if the inevitable has happened. The previous thread was locked because it was unproductive, just like this thread is unproductive. Two people got their contracts cancelled, one for taking too much time off, and another for turning down short runs and apparently threatening someone in the payroll department.

This kind of stuff happens all of the time in this line of work. If you are tired of having your contract cancelled, or waiting for a company to pay you, why don't you get your own authority and start up your own company? I am running into some of the same problems, companies are getting upset when I take time off. This is ridiculous since i'm an independent contraactor and call all the shots. But i'm not gonna whine like a baby when one of these companies decides to cancel my contract over some BS, that's just they way this business is at times.

You guys should't attack JD's company and then expect him to lay down and take that crap. He has every right to come on here and engage in the same manner of content that is being thrown his way. I would have done the same thing. This issue is like beating a dead horse, the only thing you are going to accomplish with this is another locked thread and possibly geting your account suspended for a period of time. Let it go!

 

[LisaLouHoo]

JD got his say. I got mine. Immaturity is exposed in the posts which followed the first on this thread. It didn't require or ask for any input from anyone. If you don't like what I have to say, don't respond.

"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008

 

[LisaLouHoo]

That's is... keep digging... you'll dig yourself out of that hole eventually.

Since I didn't lie, I am not in a hole. Duh.


"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008

 

[Turtle]

Since I didn't lie, I am not in a hole. Duh.

Actually you did when you said you started the other thread because you wanted to warn people and help them out because you give a flying f about everyone here, when in reality it was started in order to exact revenge by damaging the person and his company in calling John a liar, dancing around it at first in the third person so that people would explicitly infer certain things, and then started questioning his honesty outright by positing what you believe to be the real reasons the contract was canceled. Now you've finally call him a liar straight up.

Yet for all your whining and complaining, you can't prove he lied at all. Your attempt above falls woefully short, as he admitted nothing. At most he merely gave an additional reason to what you "quoted" in the other thread as justification for his decision. He is under no obligation to give you all or any of his reasons. You have to prove he actually said what you quoted, that you accurately quoted him, and that it was a lie. Good luck with that. All he has to say is that there is a lack of freight for someone who wants to work part time, which is what he said actually, and your whole deal falls apart. If you're not careful, instead of digging yourself out, you'll just end up burying yourself. My advice would be to put the shovel down, take three steps back, and move on.

It didn't require or ask for any input from anyone. If you don't like what I have to say, don't respond.

Actually, because the explicit purpose of a public Web forum is for threaded discussions, posting something in a public Web discussion forum is implicitly asking for responses. If you don't like what people respond with, don't say it in a public forum.

 

[westmicher]

When it comes to post such as these, where someone feels someone else has done a wrong, I personally feel that it would be much better for just those two parties to post.

Honestly, I just don't see how provocative, inflamitory, or one-liners can add to an already sensitive conversation. I don't know any of these parties but I'd like to hear from just those involved. Everyone else seems to be adding fuel to the fire, which can only raise the rude and/or naughty bar too high and get a topic locked.

Maybe one or more of these folks are right, or wrong, or somewhere in the middle, but I'd prefer to hear them out without all the zingers seemingly meant to make everyone more angry.

Let's be a little more civil and get the facts out.

 

[Turtle]

When it comes to post such as these, where someone feels someone else has done a wrong, I personally feel that it would be much better for just those two parties to post.

I personally feel that those two parties should keep their dispute private and not post about it at all, considering that its nothing but a bunch of he-said/she-said hearsay and allegations in most of these situations.

Let's be a little more civil and get the facts out.

Facts would be great in these disputes, but they're usually what is in dispute.

 

[scottm4211]

Lol Internet

 

[highway star]

The fact is a carrier can cancel a contract. Period. No reason given.

The fact is a contractor that's valuable won't have to be concerned about having the contract cancelled.

To quote officer Barbrady: "Move along people, there's nothing to see here."

 

[greg334]

He has every right to come on here and engage in the same manner of content that is being thrown his way.

Yep he has every right but it makes him look like an idiot for responding to a lot of it. I think for him it would have been a lot more prudent to say this is a matter between the company and the contractors then asked to have the thread locked. No freedom of speech issue involved.

But that's not what happened.

JD got his say. I got mine. Immaturity is exposed in the posts which followed the first on this thread. It didn't require or ask for any input from anyone. If you don't like what I have to say, don't respond.

I can't help but point out that the immaturity was on the OP because it wasn't an issue that wasn't out of the norm nor was it important enough to warrant the continue bravado (a.k.a. personal attacks) that built up in the posts from, I think, post 85 onward. Many of us look at this as atypical response to something that shows immaturity on everyone involved with the subject by making it public.

The other thing is this idea that we shouldn't respond, that's not your call - it is the call of the admin (Dreamer a.k.a. Dale who does a great job) and Lawrence who owns this site. They can decide who can respond and who can't which means that it is the OP who has to be the one to understand that this is an open forum and every thread is open to posts of comments.

Either way...

... if he did lie, so what?

If you lied, so what?

Because in the bigger scheme of things, it doesn't matter, we really can't tell who is or isn't lying while it may be more important to point out to you that many of us have been in worst situations and we learned to move on with life and use the experience to be more vigilant in business - which is my advice.

 

[nightcreacher]

its a soap opera,no television needed

 

[MANIAC]

HI GUYS, No matter what happened there is two sides to every story! The truth lies somewhere in the middle! At this time the only thing anyone can do is just go forward! Never look back, just use what you learned in that experience!
Believe us, when we cancelled our lease with Express-1, we learned alot! And of course the rumours will fly! All I can say in our experience is "All that glitters, is not necessarily gold!" And both sides can use that term! Let's All Get Along!

 

[Camper]

For all of the grousing that tends to take place over "censorship", ie. threads being locked down or removed, this thread and the one this thread is an offshoot of are very good examples of why said "censorship" is warranted. These two threads have no place in a forum like this, IMHO. Of course, that's Larry's call. Personally, if it was my site, both threads would have been removed and the author of them would have been banned.

JD Clark came on and gave his account of the story. If anyone should be giving any kind of rebuttal, it ought to be the parties in question(the two terminated parties). Otherwise JD Clark's account should have been the last word.

 

[cheri1122]

Have to disagree, Camper. The threads serve a useful purpose in illustrating how NOT to handle a disagreement: by posting hearsay in support of a complaint against another member.
Making them 'disappear' just leaves everyone wondering and speculating on what "really" happened, while leaving it out there lets us make up our own minds about the allegations. That they should have been made in private is a given, but they weren't, and sweeping it under the rug just encourages more unfounded assumptions.
Disagreement is part of life - how you deal with it is illuminating.

 

[Jack_Berry]

ok lisa you say jd had his say and now you have posted yours. this is over. since you have issues with jd then send emails. eo is not here to air issues between contracted carrier and independent contractor..

locked.