The Trump Card...

Pilgrim

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Unless Hillary is indicted and is pressured to drop out. That leaves Sanders, who is polling even better against Trump. Except 'conventional wisdom' says we won't elect an admitted socialist as President.
Actually, Sanders polls better than Clinton against all three GOP candidates. One can't help but wonder if these polls are taken on Twitter or maybe online at college campuses.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls

"Conventional wisdom" might say these polls are nothing but BS at this point in time. Remember, in Apr of 1980 Jimmy Carter was leading Reagan by 8 points, and the day before that election all the polls showed the race as a dead heat. Of course Reagan won by 10 points, winning 44 states in a landslide. Then again, "conventional wisdom" wouldn't have predicted the US would have elected - and re-elected - a radically liberal closet socialist either:wtf:
 

muttly

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The GOP establishment... all they've got is to try to thwart Trump from getting the required delegates to secure the nomination because they still have the rules in their favor ( if Trump doesn't get the required delegates) to choose an alternative to Trump. They won't get behind Trump because they view him as a losing proposition. They view Cruz as the PRINCE OF DARKNESS in the GOP and believe he will also lose in the general election. So instead they believe that they will have saved the electorate from choosing between candidates like Trump and Cruz by providing a more 'palatable' candidate like Kasich,Ryan, Jeb, or Romney. The GOP elites believe their party will be viewed as saving the country from their divisive candidates. Isn't the GOP grand? Vote for us.
 

Turtle

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all they've got is to try to thwart Trump from getting the required delegates to secure the nomination because they still have the rules in their favor
It's even worse than that. They can just change the rules to suit their needs, just like they did to prevent Ron Paul from getting to a second round of voting. There was a lot (I mean just a snotload) of delegates who were Ron Paul supporters but were pledged to Romney. If things had gone to a second round, which without the rule change it would have, the results could have been very different.

Who's supporters are more aggressive, Trump's or Bernie's?



And they talk about Trump being popular with the uneducated crowd...

 
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skyraider

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If one is living at home with Mommy and Daddy, and under 30, most likely they will vote for Hillary or Bernie,,,,,,,,
 

OntarioVanMan

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Is that there is trumps crazy proposal 45% tariff of goods coming into the country to really think the regular American population is going to put up with everything increasing 45%
And what exactly defines an American company? Is ford in Asia an American company is ford in Europe an American company ?
 

Turtle

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Trump didn't propose a 45% tariff on goods coming into this country.

It was a threat to China if they didn't behave. He said he would tariff Chinese-made goods, because they do it to us, ad he came up with 45% because that's the tariff that China places on certain goods imported from America. But it was mainly in the context of taxing goods of American companies who move their manufacturing to China and then re-import them.

I, for one, would not be opposed to a 45% tariff on Carrier air conditioners. :D
 

OntarioVanMan

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I wouldn't oppose a 100% tariff from the point I'll never buy their products anyhow ....
I see nothing wrong with the move to Mexico... This country offers very little for a positive business environment ...

technically Carrier is now a United Technologies company that is global in position....owning companies from around the world.....they just happen to have headquarters here....which is a plus...Carrier is a citizen worldwide now....

if the US doesn't wake up soon from its stupor, the world will pass it by.....other then the farming and ranching (food supply) the US offers little that other countries can not make on their own if need be......the world only needs the US to be a top consumer of goods...
 
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RoadTime

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Way back when this thread first started. I for one sure didn't see this headline coming...

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