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RLENT

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As an example of said derp, some Trump supporters - in response to polling that shows he is losing badly among women voters (even white women) who make up the majority of the electorate - have started and are pushing the hash tag #repealthe19th ...

(The 19th Amendment gave women the right to vote)

Gee ... what brilliant idea will these kooks come up with next ... mebbe eliminating the right of Black, Hispanic, and other minorities to vote ?
 

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Heck I voted early and yep it was for Trump! I couldn't vote for the Republican senator that turned his back on Trump though!

Well that was certainly a smart move.

What good is holding the Presidency ... if you don't have a House and Senate to go along with it ?
For a political party that wants to ram its agenda down the throat of the American people, having the presidency but not the House and Senate to go along with it is pretty much worthless. But for most Americans, the checks-and-balances envisioned by the Founding Founders facilitated by having different parties control Congress and the White House is the way to go.

When the President and the Congress are of two different parties (divided governement), things that happen tend to be beneficial to the most people. When they are of the same party, things tend to be detrimental to the majority of the people. When the Presidency and Congress are at odds (the same political party does not control the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives), it forces the two branches of government to either work together for the common good (Reagan's arms control and other foreign policies that ended of the Cold War, Bill Clinton on cooperating with Congress on domestic issues like the overhaul of Welfare and the move towards a balanced budget), or the gridlock prevents one party from dominating the wishes of half the American people (Ford's astonishing veto rate of a Democratic Congress). When the President and Congress are all on the same page in a united government, we get things like Obamacare, and the Department of Education.

In modern American political history (since 1945) Congress has usually been controlled by the same party. The “odd man out” has been the President. Since 1945, the House and Senate have been controlled by different parties only seven times (14 years), but three of those have been since the 2000 elections, which makes this seem more normal than it is, historically.

Most of the time (in modern political history) Congress and the President are at odds. Only 13 times (26 years) since 1945 have both branches of Congress and the Presidency been controlled by the same party; the Democrats have held this advantage more often than Republicans (11 to 2).
 

RLENT

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HS Ryan apparently told donors during a conference call on Wednesday that he's "growing concerned" about the fallout in House races from the hit members are taking over being associated with Trump.

Trump - who is completely oblivious to the fact that it is own conduct that has created this situation - will no doubt whine about it to supporters, Sean Hannity (safe space), and the Twitter-verse.
 

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Is it "LOL" because his offerings pale in comparison to the freebie goodies offered in Clinton ads?

Nope.

But that's as good of a deflection as any.
It's not a deflection at all. I'm just curious as to why Trump's freebie goodies in exchange for votes are LOL-worthy, when they can't hold a candle to the Clinton freebie goodies. On the subjects of child care and paid maternity leave, for example, Clinton's is a grand slam compared to Trump's bunt single.
 

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It's not a deflection at all. I'm just curious as to why Trump's freebie goodies in exchange for votes are LOL-worthy, when they can't hold a candle to the Clinton freebie goodies. On the subjects of child care and paid maternity leave, for example, Clinton's is a grand slam compared to Trump's bunt single.

It's absolutely a deflection ... by the very definition of the word.
 

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Trump - who is completely oblivious to the fact that it is own conduct that has created this situation...
It's astonishing, isn't it? There are times, way too many of them, that Trump reminds me of Baghdad Bob. I'll never forget that one press conference where he flatly stated, "There are no Americans in Baghdad! Never!" while in the background several hundred yards away you could see the American tanks rolling through the city, US soldiers on foot, and you could hear the gunfire and explosions.
 

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It's not a deflection at all. I'm just curious as to why Trump's freebie goodies in exchange for votes are LOL-worthy, when they can't hold a candle to the Clinton freebie goodies. On the subjects of child care and paid maternity leave, for example, Clinton's is a grand slam compared to Trump's bunt single.

It's absolutely a deflection ... by the very definition of the word.
OK, fine. Let me ask you this... Why is Trump's ad LOL-worthy?
 

RLENT

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Calls and a petition for Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions - a former US Attorney, Alabama Attorney General, and currently a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee - to be removed from said committee ... apparently because he doesn't have a real firm grasp on what actually constitutes sexual assault:

Jeff Sessions Should Be Removed from the Senate Judiciary Committee | RedState

Given the Trump supporters apparent desire to "remove the establishment from power" one would think that this guy would be an ideal target.

However given that he's a shill for Trump, I doubt you'll hear many calls from that quarter for his removal...

#fallout

BTW: my vote is both - Sessions is stupid, as well as being a liar ...
 
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RLENT

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Ain't goin' down your rabbit hole.

It's my opinion, I expressed it, and it's up to others to see if they can find the humor in it.

Some will, some probably won't.
 

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Ain't goin' down your rabbit hole.
Probably a good move, because at the bottom of that hole you'll find hypocrisy. Political candidates offering freebie goodies in campaign ads are hardly new. Singling out Trump doing it as somehow being funny, while at the same time ignoring the other major candidate in the race, one who has only been eclipsed by Bernie in this campaign cycle in the sheer number and value of the freebie goodies, seem, in my opinion, to be rank hypocrisy. I do apologize if I deflected your agenda, though. Then again, the purpose of this forum is discussion.
 

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Republicans must be beating there heads on the wall. It would be so easy to beat Hillary if they had elected anyone but Trump.
Hillary and Trump are the two luckiest presidential candidates ever, as each is running against the only person they could possibly beat.
 
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RLENT

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Probably a good move, because at the bottom of that hole you'll find hypocrisy. Political candidates offering freebie goodies in campaign ads are hardly new. Singling out Trump doing it as somehow being funny, while at the same time ignoring the other major candidate in the race, one who has only been eclipsed by Bernie in this campaign cycle in the sheer number and value of the freebie goodies, seem, in my opinion, to be rank hypocrisy. I do apologize if I deflected your agenda, though. Then again, the purpose of this forum is discussion.

Vote Johnson/Weld

BTW ... I thought this thread was about Trump ...

I guess mebbe not ... if one has a different agenda ...
 

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Calls and a petition for Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions - a former US Attorney, Alabama Attorney General, and currently a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee - to be removed from said committee ... apparently because he doesn't have a real firm grasp on what actually constitutes sexual assault:

Jeff Sessions Should Be Removed from the Senate Judiciary Committee | RedState

Given the Trump supporters apparent desire to "remove the establishment from power" one would think that this guy would be an ideal target.

However given that he's a shill for Trump, I doubt you'll hear many calls from that quarter for his removal...

#fallout

BTW: my vote is both - Sessions is stupid, as well as being a liar ...
You won't hear many calls for his removal because the entire subject is being pushed and hammered by the SJW and the left in general in order to distract from the real actions of Hillary to get her elected.

In any case...

"The Weekly Standard's characterization of comments I made following Sunday's Presidential debate is completely inaccurate. My hesitation was based solely on confusion of the contents of the 2005 tape and the hypothetical posed by the reporter, which was asked in a chaotic post-debate environment. I regret that it resulted in an inaccurate article that misrepresented my views. Of course it is crystal clear that assault is unacceptable. I would never intentionally suggest otherwise." - Senator Jeff Sessions
 

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Trump is going into full meltdown mode, apparently claiming at a rally in Lakeland, FL yesterday that not only will he put Clinton in jail, but also her lawyers as well ...

ROTFLMAO

#bananarepublican
 

RLENT

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You won't hear many calls for his removal because the entire subject is being pushed and hammered by the SJW and the left in general in order to distract from the real actions of Hillary to get her elected.

In any case...

"The Weekly Standard's characterization of comments I made following Sunday's Presidential debate is completely inaccurate. My hesitation was based solely on confusion of the contents of the 2005 tape and the hypothetical posed by the reporter, which was asked in a chaotic post-debate environment. I regret that it resulted in an inaccurate article that misrepresented my views. Of course it is crystal clear that assault is unacceptable. I would never intentionally suggest otherwise." - Senator Jeff Sessions

Typical non-answer "answer" ...
 

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Probably a good move, because at the bottom of that hole you'll find hypocrisy. Political candidates offering freebie goodies in campaign ads are hardly new. Singling out Trump doing it as somehow being funny, while at the same time ignoring the other major candidate in the race, one who has only been eclipsed by Bernie in this campaign cycle in the sheer number and value of the freebie goodies, seem, in my opinion, to be rank hypocrisy. I do apologize if I deflected your agenda, though. Then again, the purpose of this forum is discussion.

Vote Johnson/Weld

BTW ... I thought this thread was about Trump ...

I guess mebbe not ... if one has a different agenda ...
It is about Trump. More specifically, it's about this election cycle and the effect Trump's presence has within it. It's not really a thread designed or to be used to blatantly further an agenda, such as, for example, an anti-Trump agenda.
 
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