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ATeam

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Yesterday, Cannon ruled against Trump on his "constitutional vagueness" claim.


I'm hoping she dismisses the case outright on Trump's "personal records" argument. The dismissal can then be appealed, the 11th Circuit court of conservative judges, which has previously reversed and slammed Cannon. When Smith presents the very strong case he has to the 11th Circuit, they can reverse the dismissal, recuse Cannon and clear the way for the district to put a new judge on the case.

That's the best case scenario in my view. The other possibility is Cannon will rule against trump on the "personal records" question and stay on board.
 

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The Ruling is In; Willis Not Disqualified

"The judge overseeing the Georgia election interference case against former President Donald Trump and his co-defendants has declined to outright disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, but ruled that either she or prosecutor Nathan Wade must step aside from the case."

"In justifying his decision, McAfee found that defendants "failed to meet their burden of proving that the District Attorney acquired an actual conflict of interest" -- the standard by which McAfee apparently measured his ruling."


Given the choice the judge gave of booting Willis or Wade from the case, and given that Willis is the one to make the decision, it will almost certainly be Wade who gets kicked to the curb; after which they will be free to frolic in all the romancing they wish, conflict free. And that's the way it should have been from the beginning. It was a monumental blunder by Willis to bring or keep Wade on the case after the romance started.

While allowing her to stay on the case, the judge is cutting Willis little slack and he is obviously displeased with her behavior. He spoke about a potential gag order on Willis, which I think would be appropriate.

"In his repeated rebukes of the district attorney’s actions, Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee said Fani Willis’s comments at an Atlanta-area church in January about the case were 'legally improper' and warned of the potential for a future gag order against Willis."

"McAfee, however, concluded the comments were not enough to dismiss the case."

"'This finding is by no means an indication that the Court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the District Attorney’s testimony during the evidentiary hearing,' McAfee wrote."(Source)


The judge is clearly pissed at Willis for her professional misconduct, and so am I. At the same time, she remains on the case because the defendants could not prove the case they made for her disqualification.

Willis is up for re-election this year and she has a credible opponent. The voters will also have a say in this come November.

 
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ATeam

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Not a Bad Idea

Will Wills do what's best for the case and appoint a conflict-free prosecutor to run the case, or will she do what's best for her ego and run the case herself?
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Pilgrim

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This result was becoming more predictable, especially after learning that McAfee previously worked for Willis and donated to her campaign. Throw in the fact that he's up for election in four months to retain his seat on the bench, and it's easy to see how he came to this decision. Fulton County votes deep blue, has a high black population, and McAfee just got a black opponent for the seat; thus this decision that he hopes will appear fair and make everybody happy. Willis will throw out Wade like yesterday's leftovers, but the case will remain tainted and the defense will have more ammunition.
 
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ATeam

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Willis will throw out Wade like yesterday's leftovers, but the case will remain tainted and the defense will have more ammunition.
Which is why it would be best for Willis to recuse herself from the case. She has in her office a guy named Floyd who is said to be an eminently qualified RICO prosecutor. I'd love to see Willis step back and let him take the point.
 
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This on going mess is a soap opera , now lets break for a Tide commericial with the main players in a hot tub.....:clapping-happy:
 

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Willis's Current Status

These are excerpts from a recent New York Times article:

After revelations of Fani T. Willis’s romance with a subordinate sent the Georgia criminal case against Donald J. Trump down a two-month detour worthy of a soap opera, a judge’s ruling on Friday resolved a major cliffhanger. Ms. Willis could continue prosecuting the case, so long as her ex-boyfriend withdrew from it.

Her troubles are far from over

The defense effort to disqualify Ms. Willis began in early January, upending the case and making it unlikely to reach trial before [November]

Any attempts to appeal Friday’s ruling could delay matters even further. (Trump is likely to appeal.)

Republicans have smelled blood. The G.O.P. lawmakers who dominate Georgia politics have created new ways to investigate Ms. Willis ...

... last week, a young lawyer named Courtney Kramer, a former intern in the Trump White House, announced that she would run against Ms. Willis in this year’s race for district attorney. Ms. Kramer’s campaign, while unlikely to succeed in heavily Democratic Fulton County, could amplify criticism of Ms. Willis and the case.

Mr. Trump has made Ms. Willis’s troubles a recurring talking point at rallies

On Thursday, Jim Jordan sent a letter to Ms. Willis threatening to invoke contempt of Congress proceedings against her if she did not turn over certain documents related to her office’s use of federal funds.

All of these attacks could help to sow doubts about the district attorney and her case in the minds of future jurors.

As the pressure has mounted, Ms. Willis has responded with fierce defiance.

[Some of the original 19 defendants have pleaded out.] It is unclear whether the events of the last two months will make further plea [and cooperation] talks [with other defendants] less likely.

[The judge] suggested that he was open to issuing a gag order that would block Ms. Willis from mentioning the case in public from now on.

... like Mr. Trump, [Willis] does not shy away from the spotlight. And like Mr. Trump, her talkative, combative nature has won her enthusiastic fans.

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Not mentioned in the NY Times article is the grievance that has been filed with the GA BAR by a Fulton County resident. That's another non-case front on which Willis must now fight. Additional BAR complaints filed by additional parties may follow.

One or more complaints have also been filed with the Fulton County Board of Ethics.

My view: While she is a proven RICO prosecutor, Willis has an ego and it is getting the best of her. Now facing fights on multiple fronts, the intense pressure and Willis's wounded ego may distract her in the game and prompt her to keep her eye OFF the ball. That would mean the case would not get her best efforts. Her totally avoidable and idiotic romantic misconduct has already created a soap-opera detour that delayed the trial by two months. It may have weakened her ability to flip additional defendants.

Above, I agreed with attorney Wiessmann who called for her recusal. But there is some question about that. It may be if she officially recuses herself from the case, she must recuse her entire office and turn the case over to another prosecutor assigned by the state. If that is true, her best move would be to appoint a lead prosecutor (a RICO expert in her office named Floyd), and let him take point.

In the interests of successful prosecution, she should withdraw from the spotlight and maintain a behind-the-scenes supervisory role. But that is difficult to do when she is up for re-election, has a vocal, Trump-loyal opponent, and will be forced to answer the ethics and BAR complaints.

It may already be too late, but Willis could take an important lesson from Jack Smith. He almost never speaks in public about his cases. And when he does, it's only about something that has already been filed in court. In other words, Smith speaks through his filings. Willis should at least try to do the same. But unlike Willis, Smith has not committed the blunders Willis has, and as a result, he is not forced into the spotlight like Willis will be.

Will Willis learn any lessons from this? Will she be productively chastened? I don't know, but it won't take long to find out. Willis now stands in dire need of an attorney who can provide objective guidance for her benefit and the benefit of the case. She is a deeply wounded figure with numerous fights on her hands. She may already be doomed, and if she cannot rise above her own ego, she is certainly doomed.

That said, there is another possibility. Willis may persist and even double down in her fiercely defiant responses. She may be just getting warmed up and is ready to bring a fight to Trump he cannot withstand. If so, this already ugly contest will get more ugly until it is resolved one way or another.
 
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ATeam

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Mike Pence Won't Endorse Trump

While Pence himself is not a major influencer in the 2024 election, I have to think his decision to not vote for Trump (in addition to not endorsing him) is representative of a number of Republicans who can support Trump no more. They may not vote for Biden, but by withholding their vote from Trump, they add to the reasons Trump will lose.

 
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Willis's Current Status

Not mentioned in the NY Times article is the grievance that has been filed with the GA BAR by a Fulton County resident. That's another non-case front on which Willis must now fight. Additional BAR complaints filed by additional parties may follow.
Below is the link to the entire complaint, which is substantial. The GA Bar could strip her license to practice law, which seems more likely every with each passing day. This document is mostly dry reading, but page 15 documents evidence of the racist practices that went on inside her office. These are Federal offenses according to the EEOC. (This would be near the end of the thread - the post preceding the one with the cartoon.)

One or more complaints have also been filed with the Fulton County Board of Ethics.
Not to mention the ongoing investigation by the GA State Senate committee. We're likely to see a Special Prosecutor assigned by the Gov or
State AG to investigate Willis for corruption and felonies like the perjury she committed in McAfee's court. Her obnoxious antics during her testimony were the dumbest, most arrogant display of contempt by a prosecutor in a courtroom in the past century. She can't un-ring that bell.
Willis may persist and even double down in her fiercely defiant responses. She may be just getting warmed up and is ready to bring a fight to Trump he cannot withstand.
At this point the Trump attorneys are likely praying every night for her to give them a repeat performance. However, Willis is in no position to "double down" on anything. If we ever see her again in court, she'll probably be wheeled in on a cart with a mask like Hannibal Lecter.

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Trump's lawyers say it is impossible for him to post bond covering $454 million civil fraud judgment​



Too bad for Plump!
Trump Broker: “A bond of this size is rarely, if ever, seen."
My Response: "Fraud of this size is rarely, if ever, committed."

Trump was able to post bond in the Carroll case, and he has lied to the courts before. He may yet post bond in this NY fraud case. The deadline is Monday, March 25. In his filing, Trump asked the court to give him a break from the rules that normally apply. If the court denies his request, don't be surprised if he posts cash or bond at the last minute. The last thing Trump wants is AG James to start seizing his assets.

Trump is saying he cannot find a bonding company to provide the bond. He is not saying he cannot come up with last-minute cash if need be. That cash could come from a foreign government, private equity, a mega-donor, a Russian oligarch, or some other entity that wants to buy Trump.

Trump has known for some time that this cash or bond is likely needed. He has not tried, at least not in public, to refinance his properties or get a loan based on them for the cash needed to forestall enforcement efforts. It could turn out that he had big cash lined up all along to post when the deadline comes; if the appeals court does not give him the "free pass" he seeks.
 
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Trump Broker: “A bond of this size is rarely, if ever, seen."
My Response: "Fraud of this size is rarely, if ever, committed."

Trump was able to post bond in the Carroll case, and he has lied to the courts before. He may yet post bond in this NY fraud case. The deadline is Monday, March 25. In his filing, Trump asked the court to give him a break from the rules that normally apply. If the court denies his request, don't be surprised if he posts cash or bond at the last minute. The last thing Trump wants is AG James to start seizing his assets.

Trump is saying he cannot find a bonding company to provide the bond. He is not saying he cannot come up with last-minute cash if need be. That cash could come from a foreign government, private equity, a mega-donor, a Russian oligarch, or some other entity that wants to buy Trump.

Trump has known for some time that this cash or bond is likely needed. He has not tried, at least not in public, to refinance his properties or get a loan based on them for the cash needed to forestall enforcement efforts. It could turn out that he had big cash lined up all along to post when the deadline comes; if the appeals court does not give him the "free pass" he seeks.

Donald J. Dementia™ is now probably the greatest security risk the United States has ever known.

Trump flagged as 'massive security risk' after he's unable to post bond in fraud judgment

Nonetheless, the MAGAt Morons™ will continue to support him because they somehow imagine (in their own little Bizzaro World) that doing so "owns the Libs" ...

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