RLENT
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A slightly different take ... which is significantly less hysterical than hizzoner Glenda:
Judge Denies Attempt To Hide Records From Jan. 6 Committee
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A slightly different take ... which is significantly less hysterical than hizzoner Glenda:
Judge Denies Attempt To Hide Records From Jan. 6 Committee
danthewolf00
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McCarthy and his cronies got cloned it seams....
When the government tries to hide what it is doing is when you should be very very worried....less they become the ss of nazi Germany.
Oh wait they have already started to become the nazi ss because they are already doing the whole hit private homes with swat teams with imbeded news teams.....the way the Democrats run things is scary because it really smacks of dictators drunk on power.
When the government tries to hide what it is doing is when you should be very very worried....less they become the ss of nazi Germany.
Oh wait they have already started to become the nazi ss because they are already doing the whole hit private homes with swat teams with imbeded news teams.....the way the Democrats run things is scary because it really smacks of dictators drunk on power.
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Democrats are pulling out all the stops because they know the clock is winding down.
RLENT
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Don't want your private home hit by a SWAT team, then you probably should consider NOT getting involved in doing the seditious insurrectioning.
The Constitution is not some suicide pact with unhinged, anti-American crazies.
danthewolf00
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Roger stone was not involved.....but your so foaming at the mouth for trump......hes been out of office for a year now and your all still stuck on him.
It's no longer the case that the story relies on "unnamed sources." One person involved in the alledgedly fraudulent electors scheme has come forward and is talking in public about what this group did and why. He is confirming what CNN previously reported.
While many are saying this was a fraudulent scheme in which people created and submitted forged documents in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election, Trump campaign advisor Boris Epshteyn said in an interview, "Yes, I was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors for when, as we hoped, the challenges to the seated electors would be heard, and would be successful,..." He insisted that the electors were indeed "alternate" and not "fraudulent electors." Epshteyn also said Giuliani was involved in this coordinated effort. (source)
Were the electors "fraudulent" or "alternate?" Did thee people involved act in good faith within the law, or in bad faith with the intent to help overthrow the election?
This is why we have investigations and courts. I think this will conclude relative quickly (compared to the speed at which some investigations go). The facts, documents and deeds are not in dispute. Some who did the deeds in question are not running to court to delay investigations. They are talking in public about what they did and why. It remains only for investigators to determine what laws, if any, were broken; what charges, if any, to lay; and who, if anyone, to charge.
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Release all documents Nancy. What is she trying to hide? Apparently Dick’s daughter Liz is either lying(imagine that?#chipofftheoldblock) or the chair Benny Thompson isn’t communicating with her because she said publicly all aspects of the security breakdown are being investigated. But chair Benny Thompson said Nancy Pelosi is off limits at being looked into.
Why don’t they want to get to the bottom of it by releasing all her documents?
#Shm6comnotranzprnt
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Why don’t they want to get to the bottom of it by releasing all her documents?
#Shm6comnotranzprnt
Only 10 Percent Of J6 Committee Subpoenas Relate To The Capitol Riot
The House Select Committee established to probe the Capitol riot is not interested in probing the Capitol riot.
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No, it's not obvious. Forged documents were improperly submitted under false pretenses by unauthorized individuals to the National Archives. The real documents were submitted by the actual officials in each state.
The National Archives recognized them as improper and sent the questionable documents to the state officials who submit the real elector forms. Those officials referred the matter to their respective state law enforcement people. Investigations have thereby been triggered in some of the seven states from which these documents were received. More may come.
A couple of the documents were worded in a way that specifically stated the intent to name alternate electors for the possibility that legal challenges to election results prevailed (none did). I think those folks will be just fine. They did not falsely claim to be the real electors like those in five other stated did.
I think your "It's obvious" comment is premature. Various state and federal officials have weighed in on this matter and several say it warrants investigation if not prosecution. Give it time. We'll know more as law enforcement in the blue and red states involved figure this out.
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What is your definition of forgery?
This definition, plucked quickly off the internet, works for this discussion: "Under common law, forgery is committed when a person makes or alters a writing so that it is false with the intent to defraud."
The definition of forgery under various state and federal laws is likely being considered now by the various officials looking into the matter.
It wasn’t meant to defraud. They were alternate electors (obvious to everyone except those with a partisan bias) in case the courts decided in their favor.
So you say. Obviously, a number of state and federal officials disagree, or at least think the matter is worth investigating further before agreeing that things are as obvious as you claim.
For example,
"Attorney General Dana Nessel of Michigan said this week that she believed there was enough evidence to charge 16 Republicans in her state for submitting false certificates claiming Mr. Trump won her state’s electoral votes in 2020." (New York Times).
New Mexico "Attorney General Hector Balderas is referring to federal law enforcement allegations that Republicans in New Mexico submitted a false document intended to deliver the state’s presidential electors to Donald Trump." (Albuquerque Journal)
"A Milwaukee County prosecutor has consulted with Attorney General Josh Kaul on whether 10 Republicans committed fraud by claiming to be presidential electors even though Donald Trump lost in Wisconsin. Assistant District Attorney Matthew Westphal sent a letter Wednesday saying Kaul's Department of Justice or federal prosecutors were best suited to investigate the matter." (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)
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You forgot to say “partisan” officials.
The Dems think so to:
I tend to agree with this Pennsylvania comment. In that case, the people involved specifically stated they were submitting a document based on a contingency. They did not try to pass themselves off as the true electors for their states.
RLENT
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RLENT
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You keep posting all these "hot takes" of rightwing derp which you think exculpates the parties involved.
It doesn't ... in fact, it does the opposite: it implicates them.
