The Trump Card...

[Turtle]

No amount of training will cancel out fear.

Also lets not forget the saying that is big in the gun community

"better to be judged by12 than carried by 6"

I know tiny women climbing through windows scares the Hell of me.

 

[danthewolf00]

No amount of training will cancel out fear.

Also lets not forget the saying that is big in the gun community

"better to be judged by12 than carried by 6"

He was not in danger at all because there was no weps pointing at him nor was anything thrown at him.....and he has yet to be judged by 12 because nobody knows who he is....

 

[muttly]

That's not what I said.

I didn't quote you, but that is the gist of your sarcastic Poor Ashli post, imo.

 

[Pilgrim]

He was not in danger at all because there was no weps pointing at him nor was anything thrown at him.....and he has yet to be judged by 12 because nobody knows who he is....

What's telling is the effort the Capitol Police, the Feds, Congress and the media have taken to protect the cop's identity. If Ashli Babbitt had been a BLM protester he'd be in solitary confinement.

 

[RLENT]

The cop had years of training ..... he was not being attacked.

The Capitol was being attacked by the sad, pathetic, domestic terrorist losers ... and he was charged with defending it and those inside.

 

[danthewolf00]

The Capitol was being attacked by the sad, pathetic, domestic terrorist losers ... and he was charged with defending it and those inside.

It's the sad pathetic domestic terrorist losers like blm and antifa that attacked cops in new York city, Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis those cops defended people from the thugs that you claim are peaceful protesters.....I want the name of the cop that shot a unarmed woman while she climbed through a window.....oh wait shes a Republican.......and not a Democrat.

 

[muttly]

#thosepeskydoublestandardsthatsomearjustpeachywith.

 

[Pilgrim]

How long have we all had to witness rioting and looting by BLM and Antifa domestic terrorists across the country causing BILLIONS of dollars worth of damage to public and private property? How many times were these riots described as "mostly peaceful" by the MSM? In many of these riots the police simply did not engage the terrorists at all, in others first responders were met with gunfire from the crowds. In one particular instance - an attack on the state capitol building in Salem, OR - the rioters were met with LESS LETHAL means of response like pepper balls, rubber bullets, etc to repel the attackers. Apparently, the DC Capitol Police aren't familiar with these tactics. The bottom line is considering all these riots, how many times did police open fire on the rioters - armed or otherwise?

A tweet from Byron York on Sept 5th describing a Princeton study is more enlightening: "...report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country. http://ow.ly/wY4u50BiSDg"

And here's a link to an enlarged graphic showing the riots and demonstrations - it's astounding.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJpXRcXgAAIDjf?format=jpg&name=small

 

[RLENT]

How long have we all had to witness rioting and looting by BLM and Antifa domestic terrorists across the country causing BILLIONS of dollars worth of damage to public and private property? How many times were these riots described as "mostly peaceful" by the MSM?

The Princeton study you referred to, which was cited by York, confirms that the protests were indeed largely peaceful:

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

This you would know ... were you not cherry-picking in service to a partisan agenda.

BTW - I've never heard the MSM - or anyone else for that matter - refer to riots as mostly peaceful.

In many of these riots the police simply did not engage the terrorists at all, in others first responders were met with gunfire from the crowds.

On balance, the government response to BLM protests was heavy handed ... again from the study you cited:

Overall, ACLED data indicate that government forces soon took a heavy-handed approach to the growing protest movement. In demonstrations where authorities are present, they use force more often than not. Data show that they have disproportionately used force while intervening in demonstrations associated with the BLM movement, relative to other types of demonstrations.

Despite the fact that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement have been overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 9% — or nearly one in 10 — have been met with government intervention, compared to 3% of all other demonstrations. This also marks a general increase in intervention rates relative to this time last year. In July 2019, authorities intervened in under 2% of all demonstrations — fewer than 30 events — relative to July 2020, when they intervened in 9% of all demonstrations — or over 170 events.

Authorities have used force — such as firing less-lethal weapons like tear gas, rubber bullets, and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons — in over 54% of the demonstrations in which they have engaged. This too is a significant increase relative to one year ago. In July 2019, government personnel used force in just three documented demonstrations, compared to July 2020, when they used force against demonstrators in at least 65 events. Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations. In some contexts, like Seattle, Washington and Portland, Oregon ( see below), the heavy-handed police response appears to have inflamed tensions and increased the risk of violent escalation ( New York Times, 31 May 2020 ).

In one particular instance - an attack on the state capitol building in Salem, OR - the rioters were met with LESS LETHAL means of response like pepper balls, rubber bullets, etc to repel the attackers.

Is this the attack you are referring to:

Anti-lockdown protesters storm Oregon State Capitol building, clashing with police officers ?

Apparently, the DC Capitol Police aren't familiar with these tactics.

Oh, I'm sure they are not unfamiliar with them.

The problem you see is that the rally outside of the White House on January 6th was only permitted for a specific area.

Had the Trump-humping morons not proceeded to the Capitol and then become violent, there would have been no need if such tactics or any others for that matter.

The bottom line is considering all these riots, how many times did police open fire on the rioters - armed or otherwise?

No - the bottomline is this:

The government and the general public has long ignored or just been unaware of the pervasiveness of right-wing extremism and of the lethal danger violent right-wing extremists pose.

Or how inclined those on the right are to use violence as a political weapon.

You can rest assured however, that after January 6th neither the government - or the general public for that matter - remains unaware.

A tweet from Byron York on Sept 5th describing a Princeton study is more enlightening: "...report reveals nearly 570 violent demonstrations--riots--in nearly 220 locations spread all across country. http://ow.ly/wY4u50BiSDg"

Also from the Princeton study:

Despite the media focus on looting and vandalism, however, there is little evidence to suggest that demonstrators have engaged in widespread violence. In some cases where demonstrations did turn violent, there are reports of agents provocateurs — or infiltrators — instigating the violence. During a demonstration on 27 May in Minneapolis, for example, a man with an umbrella — dubbed the ‘umbrella man’ by the media and later identified as a member of the Hells Angels linked to the Aryan Cowboys, a white supremacist prison and street gang — was seen smashing store windows (Forbes, 30 May 2020; KSTP, 28 July 2020). It was one of the first reports of destructive activity that day, and it “created an atmosphere of hostility and tension” that helped spark an outbreak of looting following initially peaceful protests, according to police investigators, who believe the man “wanted to sow discord and racial unrest” (New York Times, 28 July 2020). In another example on 29 May in Detroit, a number of non-residents reportedly traveled to the city to engage in violent behavior during a demonstration, leading to multiple arrests (MLive, 2 June 2020).

And here's a link to an enlarged graphic showing the riots and demonstrations - it's astounding.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJpXRcXgAAIDjf?format=jpg&name=small

What do you consider astounding about it ?

 

[danthewolf00]

Lol you truly think trumpers were violent.....January 6th was the first time we got MAD at Democrats and think on this we didn't shoot anyone or beat cops near to death like your friendly peaceful blm and antifa protesters....why do you think their response was 25k national guard troops and 10 foot high fence.
We didn't start this fight......Democrats did.

 

[danthewolf00]

Democrat mayors still don't know why they have such high crime when they defunded the police....

 

[muttly]

What do you consider astounding about it ?

Pilgrim can obviously answer too. But I see a lot of riots in the map.

 

[muttly]

Lol you truly think trumpers were violent.....January 6th was the first time we got MAD at Democrats and think on this we didn't shoot anyone or beat cops near to death like your friendly peaceful blm and antifa protesters....why do you think their response was 25k national guard troops and 10 foot high fence.
We didn't start this fight......Democrats did.

How many Trump rallies have taken place in the past 5 plus years and how many turned into a riot? Miniscule if any. Isolated incidents of alterations at rallies were usually instigated by provocateurs.

 

[danthewolf00]

How many Trump rallies have taken place in the past 5 plus years and how many turned into a riot? Miniscule if any. Isolated incidents of alterations at rallies were usually instigated by provocateurs.

Would have made national news if there was any kind of riot at a trump rally.....even a small one.

 

[danthewolf00]

Before long Democrat mayors will have to have a sign on bonus for cops to work for them.....because to many of them are leaving the Democrat run citys because the Democrats do not back the police.

 

[Pilgrim]

Here's another article dated Dec 2, 2020 providing more statistics on the BLM and Antifa riots of 2020. Of course there are protests going on all the time for every imaginable reason, but the level of violence and the amount of property destruction during the riots are the main points. A couple of quotes stand out that seemed to escape the MSM during all these riots last year:

"In many cities, city hall, as well as other iconic public buildings and federal courthouses were targets of arson."

"Over the 10 weeks cited by the report, more than 16,200 people were arrested for protest-related crimes. More than half of the law enforcement agencies said local district attorneys declined to prosecute those cases.
"In some instances, prosecutors refused to charge those arrested for felony crimes committed during the protests despite the availability of video evidence and suspect confessions," the report said."

What's glaringly missing from these reports is even one instance of law enforcement using deadly force against the rioters in spite of being under threat of serious bodily harm. Over 2000 injuries to law enforcement officers were reported.

And Ashli Babbitt was killed for attempting to climb through a broken window, unarmed.

Police chief association releases number of officers injured nationwide during violent protests

More than 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured during protests, the report said.

www.wdrb.com

 

[muttly]

You're kidding, right?

Hysterical Tennessee Republicans Fire Vaccine Chief for Encouraging Vaccines

Meanwhile, the state will stop all adolescent vaccine outreach—for all diseases, not just COVID-19.

www.vanityfair.com

REPORT: Fired Vaccine Manager’s Credit Card Bought Muzzle She Claims Was Sent To Threaten Her

An investigation into a dog muzzle delivered to the former vaccine manager of Tennessee concluded the item was paid for by a credit card the official owned.

dailycaller.com

 

[Pilgrim]

REPORT: Fired Vaccine Manager’s Credit Card Bought Muzzle She Claims Was Sent To Threaten Her

An investigation into a dog muzzle delivered to the former vaccine manager of Tennessee concluded the item was paid for by a credit card the official owned.

dailycaller.com

Dr Fiscus was fired for trying to undermine parental authority over medical treatment, among other things. The state is also not halting vaccine outreach, contrary to what Vanity Fair would have us believe. Not a reliable source.

Fired vax official blamed Republicans after receiving dog muzzle, but may have sent it to herself

<p>The former top vaccination official in Tennessee, who was fired from her post in July, appears to have lied about Repu...

dailyangle.com

 

[Turtle]

She's a piece of work. She started up a nonprofit, then diverted state funds to it.

 

[RLENT]

Peters herself accesses elections hard drive, state says

Then wing nut clerks delivers it to bat crap crazy Pillow salesman (also wing nut) who has "the packets" (that aren't actually packets)