The Trump Card...

Turtle

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I might get into some trouble for asking this question, as the above post is not directed at me, but why don't i see this kind of warning when the same kind of remarks are flowing in the other direction.
Most warnings are done behind the scenes and are never made public. Sometimes when private discussion is fruitless it can go public. When it becomes excessive, I still try my best to give someone every opportunity to stop the behavior in question.

Using terms like "dumber than dirt", or similar phrases is uncalled for.
I agree. It's not helpful, but I don't recall seeing it used as a troll specifically to get a rise out of people. The phrase, "dumber than dirt liberal morons" is used quite consistently, and while it may be offensive to some, it hasn't proven to be a troll. If, however, a different disparaging remark or phrase was used every time morons were mentioned, then it wouldn't be clever or creative, it would be searching for the hot button phrase to get a rise out of someone. A troll.

The unasked rhetorical question at hand is, is RLENT capable of discussing the issues of the day without referring to Trump or Republicans or others without using some disparaging remark du jour?

The rules in the Soapbox are intentionally more lax than other forums, because passions and strong opinions are the nature of the forum and relaxing the rules allows for a more spirited and engaging debate. But even the relaxed rules have limits. When reports and PMs indicate that the spirited trolling is having a negative effect on engagement, either in active participation or in passive reading of the forum, hints are given, then warnings in private, and then in public if necessary, and eventually somebody will lose their platform and can satiate their desires elsewhere. I try to be as liberal as I can, instead of being heavy-handed in these matters. Others may disagree.
 
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Turtle

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Question: If we had an honest and trusted press, would the Capitol riot have taken place?

Nope.

If the press was trusted and they reported the election was free and fair and transparent, that there was no fraud and it wasn't stolen, people would believe it. But the press isn't trusted, so they're not believed. People know without question that the press lies. People believe there was massive election fraud, because it's utterly believable in this day and age of a dishonest press.
 

Ragman

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Just courious,
Is Rep Raskin an orthodox Jew, or does he just happen to have a bald spot in exactly the same place one would wear a yarmulke. Again, just courious.
 

Turtle

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This is one example of how the lies from the "news" media and edited tape from house impeachment lawyers distort what was actually said:
If CNN covered that live, then it's the first time the entire video had been played on their network. They didn't even cover the press conference live. CNN viewers, those who get their news exclusively from CNN and other mainstream media outlets, saw that video for the first time (if CNN covered it today, I don't know if they did or not).

But that's how the hoaxes happen, context is removed to leave the impression something happened that didn't happen.

The Fine People Hoax
The Drinking Bleach Hoax.
The Overfeeding the Koi Fish Hoax
The COVID-19 is a Hoax Hoax
The Kids in Cages Hoax
The Russia Collusion Hoax
It's a really long list. All perpetuated by a media that knew exactly what they were doing, and a gullible audience that believed it unquestioning.
 

RLENT

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An angry Philly personal injury attorney wouldn't have been my first choice as an ex-President in an impeachment trial ... but what do I know ?

I can however see how it might be a good fit ... at least for an audience of one.
 

RLENT

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It appears that we are going to have witnesses.

Well, at least one for sure anyways.

Pandora's box has been opened ...

:tearsofjoy:
 

RLENT

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But, do 17 have the balls to convict?

Kinda doubtful IMO so I'm not really sure ... but I'd guess it's a fair bet that we might get some idea of what their threshold for political pain is in the coming days (or months) ...

:tearsofjoy:
 
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RLENT

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Anyone have any thoughts on who they'd like to see called as witness ?

I am given to understand that defense counsel would like to call literally hundreds of witnesses ...

I'm thinking that the Secret Service detail for the ex-President might be able to shed some light on communications the ex-President was receiving about the insurrection while it was in progress, as well as any information that was being conveyed to the White House about the safety of VP Pence and other individuals in the continuity of government chain.
 

muttly

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Well that should be a wrap on the impeachment trial. Dems backdown(moral cowardice?) and there will be no witnessses.
#Trumpordered10000NGtroops
 

RLENT

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Well that should be a wrap on the impeachment trial. Dems backdown (moral cowardice?) and there will be no witnessses.

Nope - strictly a political calculation:

McConnell wasn't going to let the Majority entertain other business concurrently, while the Impeachment trial continued as witnesses were called. No real good reason for that and that would have thwarted the Majority moving forward on Biden's agenda, most particularly COVID-19 relief.

Pretty much the typical Rep obstructionism we've all come to know and love.

It is worth considering however, if one closes off the political path to hold former officials accountable, then the criminal justice path becomes the one easiest one to traverse.

So one ought to be careful what one wishes for ... or revels in.

#Trumpordered10000NGtroops

When ... exactly ?

:tearsofjoy:
 

danthewolf00

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And trump did offer 10,000 national guard troops weeks before the rally but was told by the Sargent at arms and Pelosi that the ng was not needed.
 
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Ragman

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