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layoutshooter

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Obama wants to disarm the U.S. citizens. He CLAIMS it is to stop crime and mass murders, although NOTHING he is trying to do is either targeting criminals or will have any affect on the things he CLAIMS he wishes to stop.

The REAL reason he wants to disarm us is to make it possible for his government to control us. He KNOWS that there WILL be uprisings as his tyranny grows and he wants to insure that we are just as unable to defend our selves as the brave Jews were in Warsaw when they stood up to Hitler's tyranny. Had the Jews in Germany and Poland been as heavily armed as the citizens of this country is Hitler would have NEVER been able to destroy as many lives as he did. Same goes for what happened under Soviet Russia. Both Hitler and Stalin were able to do what they did because the populations they controlled were unable to defend themselves.

The one thing that I don't understand is why so many people of the Jewish faith, regardless of their national origin would vote for Obama? It is like they have forgotten their own history and how they were persecuted under extremist regimes.






[h=1]Warsaw marks 70 years since uprising in ghetto[/h]
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Sirens wailed and church bells tolled inWarsaw as largely Roman Catholic Poland paid homage Friday to the Jewish fighters who rose up 70 years ago against German Nazi forces in the Warsaw ghetto uprising.


The mournful sounds marked the start of state ceremonies that were led by Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski at the iconic Monument to the Ghetto Heroes. The president was joined by officials from Poland, Israel and beyond as well as a survivor of the fighting, Simha Rotem, to honor the first large-scale rebellion against the Germans during World War II.


About 750 Jews with few arms and no military training attacked a much larger and well-equipped German force that was about to send the remaining residents of the ghetto to death camps. The revolt was crushed the following month, and the ghetto was razed to the ground, most of its residents killed.


"We knew that the end would be the same for everyone. The thought of waging an uprising was dictated by our determination. We wanted to choose the kind of death we would die,"said Rotem, an 88-year-old who is among a tiny number of surviving fighters and was the key figure at the ceremony. "But to this day I have doubts as to whether we had the right to carry out the uprising and shorten the lives of people by a day, a week, or two weeks. No one gave us that right and I have to live with my doubts."

Rotem's uncertainty is in stark contrast to how the world remembers the revolt. Though a clear military defeat, it is hailed as a moral victory for the Jewish fighters, who refused to go without a fight to the gas chambers. It is widely viewed as a model of resistance against the odds and is often celebrated in Israel, part of a never-again ethos that stresses the importance of self-defense.


"The Nazi Germans made a hell on earth of the ghetto," Komorowski said in a speech. "Persecuting the Jews appealed to the lowest of human instincts."


During the ceremonies, Komorowski bestowed one of the country's highest honors on Rotem — the Grand Cross of the Order of the Rebirth of Poland. Later the two of them, along with Israeli Education Minister Shai Piron and Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, a Polish Auschwitz survivor who helped rescue Jews during the war, walked side-by-side to the monument and bowed before it as soldiers laid a wreath for them.

To a military drum, other dignitaries followed them in paying their respects at the memorial to suffering and struggle, including Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, members of Poland's Jewish community and U.S. Ambassador Stephen Mull along with an American survivor of the Warsaw ghetto, Estelle Laughlin.


Rabbis also recited mournful Hebrew prayers as they were joined by three Polish army chaplains, one Catholic, one Eastern Orthodox and one Protestant. Psalm 130, which starts, "Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord! ..." was recited in Hebrew and Polish.



Officials had announced that a second surviving fighter, Havka Folman Raban, would also participate, but she was not featured in television coverage and it was unclear if she actually was there.


Throughout Warsaw, national and city flags fluttered from city buses, trams and public buildings as authorities made an unprecedented effort to encourage Poles to remember the ghetto fighters and Jewish suffering during the war. Warsaw city hall said it is the first time that churches in the capital rang their bells to mark the anniversary of the uprising.


Though the Warsaw ghetto uprising is well-known worldwide, it hasn't received the same level of attention among Poles, for whom a separate city-wide revolt in 1944 plays a much more critical role to national identity.


Authorities, however, have been trying to change this and to convince Poles that the Warsaw ghetto uprising is a key moment not just in Jewish but also in broader Polish history.


Newspaper articles in recent days have stressed the Polishness of the Jewish revolt, while officials have encouraged Warsaw residents to get involved in a month of commemorations that ends on May 16. That is the day in 1943 when the Nazis blew up the Great Synagogue, a jewel of 19th-century architecture, to symbolize their crushing of the revolt.


The events Friday followed an evening of commemorations on Thursday featuring the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra.


Israel also marked the anniversary of the uprising on its Holocaust Remembrance Day, April 7, which coincided with the Hebrew date of the anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto uprising.
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AP reporter Monika Scislowska in Warsaw contributed to this report.













Warsaw marks 70 years since uprising in ghetto
 

Opel2010

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The forecast for the near future predicts dark clouds... have your umbrella prepared or you'll be swept away by the storm.
 

LDB

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For serious storms one may want a serious black umbrella.
 

Humble2drive

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A LOT bigger umbrella that 5.56. Black is OK.

My 5.56 umbrella is running out of effectiveness. My local umbrella store will only sell me 2 boxes at a time @ $17.00 each. That's 85 cents every time I open up my umbrella.
Any good online sources that aren't out of stock?
 

layoutshooter

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My 5.56 umbrella is running out of effectiveness. My local umbrella store will only sell me 2 boxes at a time @ $17.00 each. That's 85 cents every time I open up my umbrella.
Any good online sources that aren't out of stock?

Not for any good prices. Seen 5.66X45 62 grain for as high as 1400.00 per thousand and as low as 650. It was going for 500-650 at the Machine gun shoot last week.

Prices seem to be starting to drop. They would come down quicker if the government would spot buying up the ammo.

This entire gun control thing is a joke. NOT ONE of these politicians are even TRYING to stop or even slow down crime. They are ONLY trying to take away our rights, and I CAN prove that.


This place has 38 1000 round cases in stock. 829.00


http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-223-ammo-5-56x45mm62fmjm855lcity-1000
 
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Humble2drive

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Not for any good prices. Seen 5.66X45 62 grain for as high as 1400.00 per thousand and as low as 650. It was going for 500-650 at the Machine gun shoot last week.

Prices seem to be starting to drop. They would come down quicker if the government would spot buying up the ammo.

This entire gun control thing is a joke. NOT ONE of these politicians are even TRYING to stop or even slow down crime. They are ONLY trying to take away our rights, and I CAN prove that.


This place has 38 1000 round cases in stock. 829.00


1000 Rounds of Bulk .223 Ammo by Lake City - 62gr FMJ

Agreed.


This place has PMC X-TAC 5.56MM 62 grain for 889.00 per 1000. X-TAC is cleaner firing than Lake City is.

223 Ammo | Bulk .223 Remington Ammunition For Sale Cheap

Thanks for the links.

I guess the .85 I am paying per round is not outrageous when compared to the average prices online. It is just bothersome to spend $890.00 for 1000 rounds of ammo to put in an M&P15 that cost me $900.00.
Can you give me an exact date when the takeover attempt will take place so I can make sure to complete my stockpile by then? :cool:
 
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layoutshooter

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Agreed.




Thanks for the links.

I guess the .85 I am paying per round is not outrageous when compared to the average prices online. It is just bothersome to spend $890.00 for 1000 rounds of ammo to put in an M&P15 that cost me $900.00.
Can you give me an exact date when the takeover attempt will take place so I can make sure to complete my stockpile by then? :cool:

It is ongoing as we speak. Obama is looking for ways to get around the defeats in the Senate. He is looking to use "mental health" laws. Watch soon for them to use some "hidden clause" in Obama Care. These are EVIL people.

I bought 2000 rounds, even though I don't have a rifle yet. I had 1000 on backorder, for 386.00, those were the X-TAC rounds. When it appeared that I would not get that I found 1000 Lake City at 450.00. Got those then less than a month later the first batch came in. I wish now I had bought several more cases. My investment is growing faster than my IRA is.

Obama ONLY goes along with the "will of the people" when it comes to smoking pot. In the case of losing in the senate, he is looking for a way around them.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-acts-strengthen-gun-background-check-system-161119254.html
 
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Slo-Ride

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If you can find components. Cleaned and processed brass is selling for 125-250 per 1000. IF you can find it. Bullets are harder to find. Powder and primers not so bad, yet.

Just did a fast search on whats avaible for reloading and am amazed as what isnt avaible..Not sure I have ever seen that before..Desperate times.
 

layoutshooter

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Just did a fast search on whats avaible for reloading and am amazed as what isnt avaible..Not sure I have ever seen that before..Desperate times.

It has been going on for quite some time. If I had been in my pick up truck I would have bought some processed 5.56MM brass at the machine gun shoot. Guy there had it for 125 per 1000. Best price I had seen for a long time. It was deprimed, sized and tumble polished. I did not want to carry it on my work truck. Legal to be sure, BUT, there are a LOT of strange people out there. Not worth the trouble.
 
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