http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/1...e-officers-dead-after-shootings-coroner-says/
Again , most likely, Al and Jesse will not attend......
Again , most likely, Al and Jesse will not attend......
The lights are out on 2 Officers, state of the nation.
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Sharpton is not driven by justice it is simply a method to achieve wealth. But poor people of every race face injustice you certainly don't have to be black to experience injustice or racism for that matter.
Plenty of minority cops get assaulted or killed in the line of duty. Not much is heard about this in the press. The liberal media would have us believe there is a black holocaust going on in the United States. The real story should be the vicious cop-haters and the harm they unleash on society.
Unfortunately the real, actual story is the fascists cop-lovers (authoritarian, far-right, militarism, social class collaboration, direct action, etc.) and the tangible harm they have unleashed on society. Vicious cop-haters is merely a symptomatic backlash for that.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/records-thousands-too-injured-to-enter-baltimore-jail/ar-BBjyGBG
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/running-from-police-is-the-norm-some-in-baltimore-say/ar-BBjzz22
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/records-thousands-too-injured-to-enter-baltimore-jail/ar-BBjyGBG
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/running-from-police-is-the-norm-some-in-baltimore-say/ar-BBjzz22
It is amazing. And for most, thoroughly UN-understandable. Which is why people shouldn't be so quick to pass judgement on those living in conditions they don't understand.
One thing from that second article is a little disturbing, though, on a couple of issues.
One, he says even if he thinks there'a monster in Lock Ness, he's going to swim in there anyway. Whatever he thinks is true, he isn't going to act accordingly, he's going to do the opposite. Using that logic, a police officer who thinks his life is in danger would not act accordingly and would just pretend there's no perceived danger. Yeah, right. Then he says people don't get free chased, they run from the police because they're got some reason to run from the police. Yeah, like acting accordingly, because they're being free chased. He thinks that if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't be running, and if you're running, you have something to hide. That's the age-old, if you have nothing to hide, then you won't mind if I search you and your vehicle, and it's step-one in establishing a totalitarian police state.
Then he says when people run, the results can be bad. And it's not bad because of something the police do, it's because they ran. That's advocating for on-the-spot punitive measures by the cops as punishment for not complying with the cops.
Jeff Roorda is a POS weasel. As a cop he was officially reprimanded twice, and fired once, for filing police reports containing false statements to cover up police misconduct. He doesn't like dash or body cameras, at all, because they're bad for police. They "only show one angle of an encounter" which doesn't always show what really happened, and are open to interpretation. "In general, cameras have been bad for law enforcement and the communities they protect. It causes constant second-guessing by the courts and the media." He then went on to say, "Police officers are trained professionals and shouldn't have to worry about being second guessed." This from a man with a history of lying in official reports. He was also fired from his Arnold, MO police job after secretly tape-recording a conversation between him and the police chief over a grievance Roorda had with the department.
However, as a Democrat in the Missouri House of Representatives, in Jan 2014 he introduced a bill that would allow the government to close "any records and documents pertaining to police shootings [...] if they contain the name of any officer who did the shooting, unless the officer who did the shooting has been charged with a crime as a result of the shooting, in which case such records or documents shall not be closed." So basically, since we all know how rare it is for cops to be charged with a shooting crime, he wants all police shooting video to remain private, unless and until evidence other than the video results in charges files against the officer, because officers shouldn't be second guessed.
Roorda's mindset is not all that different from many in law enforcement (and some here on EO), and it seems to be rather typical of many. He paints with a rather large brush, as do so many others.
Noncompliance leads to all kinds of difficulties. CDL truckdrivers know full well they must comply with law enforcement at many levels. An attitude of cooperation works wonders. Likewise, people on the streets know full well they must comply with requests from police. It is highly unlikely anyone being polite and cooperative with police will be physically attacked. Running from police is just plain stupid. Having a hostile attitude toward law enforcement brings compounded misery such as finding one's self as a convicted felon at age 20 with future prospects ruined. Compliance is easy for law abiding individuals. It is a civic duty.
I don't disagree with any of that. It's why I honestly can't understand a mindset culture of running from police. That doesn't mean it's not valid, it just means I don't see it, I don't get it. I'm trying to. If I were reasonably sure that, despite being polite and cooperative with police, I might be faced with trumped up charges, I might not want to hang around.
There are too many of these:
This one certainly seems like a reasonable reaction by police:
Even if you don't comply, I'm not sure this should be the outcome:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/09/us/south-carolina-police-shooting/
Here's what can happen when you fully comply and do everything you are told to do. This, of course, was another one of the infamous isolated incidents that (fortunately) was caught on camera.
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/25/why-did-you-shoot-me-dash-cam-shows-trooper-shooting-unarmed-man/
It certainly gives one pause.
Wow!
You really don't want to go down that road, do you?
Unless you are prepared to give some zeig heils to the man in uniform!
Compliance is still the better choice. There are approximately 1.6 millions law enforcement officers in the United States. Using an example of 1 million interactions per day between police and civilians, almost all interactions go without a violent exchange. Violence is the exception, but it does happen on occasion. With the advent of cell phone cameras and security cameras omnipresent, more bad apples among police are being detected and removed.
Civics training is sorely needed on both sides with an emphasis on civility.
Civics training is sorely needed on both sides with an emphasis on civility.
It's a problem in the news media. It's not stories they are interested in because it's not their preferred narrative.
the larger underlying issue is the Police State. We have too many laws so we create more criminals. Take the young man in Baltimore. The majority of,his previous arrests were drug related. If it. Weren't for,the so called war,on,drugs. The police wouldn't have even known him. Until we realize,the,Police are just one of the tool. Being used to keep,us pointing fingers at each other as the cause of,the failure of,our society. Instead of lookimg at the ruling class that has their heel on all,our necks.
Yes, there should be a reduction of laws with drugs like marijuana, but not with some of the harsher drugs.( except with sentencing )
Police would have still knew who he was. He still had arrests for burglary, stolen property, and malicious destruction of property.