The Future of Trucking is the Future of Jobs...

layoutshooter

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Well I'm no elitist. Let's put it this way: It is growing increasingly harder to maintain individual liberty. My contention is that many individuals will not or cannot carry their own weight. When it becomes easier to succumb to the pressure rather than to fight it and remain soverign, many will take that route. They either don't value self reliance or they are weak minded enough to give up.
They deserve to be controlled IMHO.

I did not mean to imply that you were an elitist. I was speaking of concepts.

As to those who will not carry their own weight should be allowed to fall by the side of the road. They should not be controlled. Controlling the People is not a government function.

Those who are unable to carry their own weight should be directed to private charities for help. Charity is not a government function.

I have no use for those who refuse to take responsibility and only compassion for those who cannot.
 

letzrockexpress

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I did not mean to imply that you were an elitist. I was speaking of concepts.

As to those who will not carry their own weight should be allowed to fall by the side of the road. They should not be controlled. Controlling the People is not a government function.

Those who are unable to carry their own weight should be directed to private charities for help. Charity is not a government function.

I have no use for those who refuse to take responsibility and only compassion for those who cannot.

Yes I agree control is not a goverment function and I did not mean to say those who cannot take care of themselves should be controlled. I too have compassion for those people. I hate to say it but it's like this: Either you use people to reach your objectives and goals or you will be used by someone else to achieve theirs...
 

layoutshooter

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Yes I agree control is not a goverment function and I did not mean to say those who cannot take care of themselves should be controlled. I too have compassion for those people. I hate to say it but it's like this: Either you use people to reach your objectives and goals or you will be used by someone else to achieve theirs...


OR

Like minded people can cooperate, working together, to achieve their objectives and goals. Like Ducks Unlimited, a volunteer fire company etc.

Using and being using normally ends up counter-productive.
 

pearlpro

Expert Expediter
The worst part will be the Automated BBQ restaurant, youll enter, read the menu on your smartphone or tablet, order your food, it will be cooked or plated and rolled out to your table on an automated robot cart, Under glass, youll swipe your CC and the lid opens and your dinner is yours....

Its still gonna be a few years I believe but todays younger folks areent as scared of TECH they embrace it with little or no regard to the fact soon, Cashiers, Checkers, Truckers, waiters, dishwashers, and on and on wont exist any more....well all be working as data entry clerks on our "home terminal", you ENTER in the morning, do all your work, communicate, never leave the house....get paid in food credits for the SOYLENT GREEN, and die by age 50....

Technologty is scary stuff guys !!!
 

xxiv24

Expert Expediter
Just like Pirates, there will always be truckers.

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AMonger

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These companies running these robot rigs will need, and likely get, liability exemptions. The first time -- and there will be one -- one of these robo-trucks kills somebody's Aunt Bessie or somebody's children, lawyers are going to be parachuting in to handle that case. If liability exemptions aren't in place by then, they soon will be.
 

ATeam

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These companies running these robot rigs will need, and likely get, liability exemptions. The first time -- and there will be one -- one of these robo-trucks kills somebody's Aunt Bessie or somebody's children, lawyers are going to be parachuting in to handle that case. If liability exemptions aren't in place by then, they soon will be.

It could work exactly opposite. The robot cars on the road now have logged hundreds of thousands of miles, if not millions, and there has not been a single accident ... not one ... when the car was driving itself. There was one fender bender when a human operator was in control of the robot car.

In the event of a tragic crash in the future, the legal liability question may be, why were you permitting a human to drive your truck when you knew or should have known that a self-driving truck is much, much safer?

While driving, robots don't take their eyes off the road to change the radio station. They don't light cigarettes. They don't get angry because someone cut them off, or get tired after a number of hours behind the wheel.

They don't make freeway lane changes, exits and entrances for bathroom stops. They always signal their turns. They don't text or make and receive cell phone calls in a way that distracts them from driving. They can see as well at night as they can in the day, and they can see through fog.

Their on-road time and exposure is minimized because the only miles they drive are work related. They don't have to drive extra miles to get groceries, go in for a drug test or for any other personal reason.

Having no hours of service issues, they can schedule their driving to blend well with traffic flows. It does not matter to them if a route goes through a bad neighborhood, over a rough road or involves lots of traffic lights. Once underway, they can drive as long as their fuel supply allows. They have no need to find and use parking places on their route, eliminating the risk of being hit by another truck while parked at a truck stop.

Getting stalled in traffic does not upset them. They don't care if they get home. They don't care if they have to wait hours at a dock or days for a load. They don't get upset because their girlfriend said something wrong.

While driving, their minds don't drift. They don't become preoccupied with with a ball game they are listening to on the radio or a CB radio discussion or the pretty girl in the four-wheeler nearby. They don't worry about how to pay for the the kid's braces or the fight the wife is having at home with her live-in father-in-law who is there because he can no longer take care of himself.

Robots don't drift out of their lanes. They don't tailgate. And they don't get lost. If an emergency stop must be made, their reaction time is faster than any human's.

If a safety or maintenance issue develops on the vehicle, the robot will detect it and, instead of continuing to drive to deal with it in a way that is convenient to the driver, will take immediate action as appropriate to the issue.

Liability-wise, humans present the greater risk.
 
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coalminer

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OR

Like minded people can cooperate, working together, to achieve their objectives and goals. Like Ducks Unlimited, a volunteer fire company etc.

Using and being using normally ends up counter-productive.

Human nature would prevent large groups from working together each persons goals would be more important than the group goals.
 

coalminer

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Retired Expediter
It could work exactly opposite. The robot cars on the road now have logged hundreds of thousands of miles, if not millions, and there has not been a single accident ... not one ... when the car was driving itself. There was one fender bender when a human operator was in control of the robot car.

In the event of a tragic crash in the future, the legal liability question may be, why were you permitting a human to drive your truck when you knew or should have known that a self-driving truck is much, much safer?

While driving, robots don't take their eyes off the road to change the radio station. They don't light cigarettes. They don't get angry because someone cut them off, or get tired after a number of hours behind the wheel.

They don't make freeway lane changes, exits and entrances for bathroom stops. They always signal their turns. They don't text or make and receive cell phone calls in a way that distracts them from driving. They can see as well at night as they can in the day, and they can see through fog.

Their on-road time and exposure is minimized because the only miles they drive are work related. They don't have to drive extra miles to get groceries, go in for a drug test or for any other personal reason.

Having no hours of service issues, they can schedule their driving to blend well with traffic flows. It does not matter to them if a route goes through a bad neighborhood, over a rough road or involves lots of traffic lights. Once underway, they can drive as long as their fuel supply allows. They have no need to find and use parking places on their route, eliminating the risk of being hit by another truck while parked at a truck stop.

Getting stalled in traffic does not upset them. They don't care if they get home. They don't care if they have to wait hours at a dock or days for a load. They don't get upset because their girlfriend said something wrong.

While driving, their minds don't drift. They don't become preoccupied with with a ball game they are listening to on the radio or a CB radio discussion or the pretty girl in the four-wheeler nearby. They don't worry about how to pay for the the kid's braces or the fight the wife is having at home with her live-in father-in-law who is there because he can no longer take care of himself.

Robots don't drift out of their lanes. They don't tailgate. And they don't get lost. If an emergency stop must be made, their reaction time is faster than any human's.

If a safety or maintenance issue develops on the vehicle, the robot will detect it and, instead of continuing to drive to deal with it in a way that is convenient to the driver, will take immediate action as appropriate to the issue.

Liability-wise, humans present the greater risk.


Actually they will tailgate each other, more efficient that way, if they run with only 12 or so inches between the trucks only the first truck needs to break the wind.
 

AMonger

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They are, though, only as good as their programming, which is done by fallible humans; and the more complex they are, the more there is to go wrong with their components.
 

ATeam

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Retired Expediter
Actually they will tailgate each other, more efficient that way, if they run with only 12 or so inches between the trucks only the first truck needs to break the wind.

Yes, that's true. Convoys of robotic trucks can and will tailgate each other because their reaction time is very short. When I said they will never tailgate, I meant they won't tailgate four-wheelers like some truckers do now to intimidate the four-wheeler to move over.
 

Moot

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Owner/Operator
In January 2011, Expedite NOW featured a piece a on a similar topic: Imagine a Future without Trucks

Excerpt:

When you go to the hardware store and buy a drill, is it because you want a drill or because you want a hole?
If you could buy holes instead of drills, drills would cease to exist and the people who make them would be out of work.

When you go to the video store to get a movie, is it because you want to go the store or because you want to watch a movie?
Movies can now be downloaded directly to customers, eliminating the need for stores.
Video rentals are up, customers are happy and vacant video stores are a common sight.

When you go to a health club is it because you want to work out or because you want to lose weight, develop muscle and improve the function of your cardiovascular system?
If you could buy a new body instead of working out, heath clubs would cease to exist and the people who own and work at these clubs would be out of a job. So would the people that make exercise equipment.

My wife works for a company that makes exercise equipment. If health clubs go belly up, her job will be in jeopardy. Currently robots do much of the welding and it is rumored that robots will replace management in the very near future. If she loses her job, I'll become the main breadwinner. I'm sure glad I own and operate a cargo van. There is virtually an endless supply of humans willing to drive a cargo van for a living. We will never be replaced by robots, it would be cost prohibitive.

Instead of worrying about robots and other technology eliminating jobs, we should focus our concern towards mind control. Large retailers like Costco and Walmart already have us trained to ring-up and bag our own purchases. How long before they have us sweeping floors and shlepping grocery carts in from the parking lots?

LIQUID CLEANUP IN AISLE 6

Excuse me, I gotta run. Where's my mop?
 

Ragman

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Excuse me, I gotta run. Where's my mop?

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