The Difference

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What a difference. A truly accomplished man, a man who started life with nothing. A man of principle, morals and a belief that all men are able.

When this man spoke, he spoke TO the people, not down on them. He spoke with the fervor of a man who is confident in his beliefs. A man who knows what is right and what is wrong.

Dr, Ben Carson spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast. The president, and many other dignitaries were there. Mr. Carson, looked like, sounded like and believed like a president of the United States should. He believes in our system of government. He believes in the ability of the individual and he is confident. Not some weird sense of "self-esteem", but the kind of confidence that comes from great accomplishment.

He spoke without a teleprompter. He was engaging.

This was a prayer breakfast so if you are offended by the mention of "God" or "Jesus" I suggest you don't watch this speech. Then again, maybe you should. Just to hear what is has to say about the idea of "political correctness", and it's evils.

This man, not the president, is a leader.

The link is to a source, "The Blaze" that many do not like. I ONLY used this link because I could hear the speech best on my computer. I have been looking for just a written text, so I could read it.

I don't know all of his politics, but to this man I would listen. He seeks to uplift, he seeks answers, not a bully pulpit. He may or may not run for office, if he does BOTH parties we have now will be in BIG trouble.

This link works better than the Blaze link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA



See the Prayer Breakfast Speech That?s Grabbing Headlines: Doctor Attacks Political Correctness, National Debt in Front of Obama | Video | TheBlaze.com
 
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LDB

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Yes, far more qualified than the incumbent, far more intelligent, far more sensible, all around a better person.
 

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I have a lot of trouble reading, with my eye and all, but I am going to get his book and try to read it. I want to know more about this man. This is a man who might be able to pull off a third party run. He is just different enough, at least as far as I can tell so far. He is worth further investigation.
 

cheri1122

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Dr Carson is indeed a man who deserves much respect and praise for his accomplishments and humility.
Is the Republican party so bereft of potential that the 'right' conservative message and a likeable persona is enough for some to suggest a run for the presidency?
Oh wait - silly me, I forgot: Ann Romney wasn't interested.
:rolleyes:
 

LDB

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Hate to spoil your plans but he has written five books and you can bet the worst of the five is exponentially better than anything Obama's ghost writers penned and for which he took credit.
 

LDB

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Dr Carson is indeed a man who deserves much respect and praise for his accomplishments and humility.
Is the Republican party so bereft of potential that the 'right' conservative message and a likeable persona is enough for some to suggest a run for the presidency?
Oh wait - silly me, I forgot: Ann Romney wasn't interested.


Oh wait. Silly you. The same could be said of the democrats who have nobody remotely as good as Dr. Carson either.
 

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Dr Carson is indeed a man who deserves much respect and praise for his accomplishments and humility.
Is the Republican party so bereft of potential that the 'right' conservative message and a likeable persona is enough for some to suggest a run for the presidency?
Oh wait - silly me, I forgot: Ann Romney wasn't interested.
:rolleyes:

Who said anything about the Republicans and Dr. Carson? The Republicans are just as corrupt as the Democrats. I would like to learn more about Dr. Carson, with the idea of a third party run.
 

cheri1122

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Who said anything about the Republicans and Dr. Carson? The Republicans are just as corrupt as the Democrats. I would like to learn more about Dr. Carson, with the idea of a third party run.

Good luck with that - Sean Hannity, Andrew Breitbart, and the WSJ have already staked out their claim. :rolleyes:
 

Ragman

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The Republicans are just as corrupt as the Democrats.

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Good luck with that - Sean Hannity, Andrew Breitbart, and the WSJ have already staked out their claim. :rolleyes:


I am beginning to believe that Dr. Carson is a man of integrity. The kind that cannot be bought. He is not afraid to say what he thinks, regardless of who is there to hear it.

I know little about him, this speech interested me. I am going to do more research for a bit.

I hope he is not another O'Romney or Rombama, we have had FAR to many scumbags running for and ending up in that office. We need quality and integrity for a change. THAT would be REAL change and I sure hope we get some soon.
 

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Should Dr. Carson choose to run for public office against the Dems, he would no doubt be subjected to the same character assassination & demonization as Romney or any other significant candidate. Considering his profession and length of tenure at his position, he's most likely WEALTHY. Being successful and rich means he must be evil.:rolleyes: Surely Dr. Carson will have better sense than to get into politics.
 

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The Democrats would likely TRY to do this guy in, character wise. I don't know if that would play very well, his respect is already established. I think it would backfire. Whether or not he should run, I would like to see it, based only on what little I know now. He would make an interesting candidate. Weak on defense, not sure on economics, strong on medical issues, likely weak on foreign policy. He may be able to attract a quality supporting staff, since quality people tend to know quality people. Accomplished people tend to know accomplished people.
 

Humble2drive

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Oh wait. Silly you. The same could be said of the democrats who have nobody remotely as good as Dr. Carson either.

"good" is irrelevant, electable is everything.
Right now, the politician with the highest approval rating is Hillary Clinton.
It would be a very long road to go down for Dr. Carson to lay out the details of how he could be the one to change our tax system to a proportional (flat) tax system and how the lifelong HSA would really work for low income citizens. Then pile on the foreign relations, defense and social issues (abortion and gays). In addition, the fact that he struggled with anger issues and stabbed his friend would provide gleeful fodder for the MSM.
One good speech was what endeared Obama to the electorate but as we have seen, the devil is in the details. Repubs need to keep this in mind. Just sayin.
 

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I'd be very relieved to have him as surgeon if one were needed for anyone in my family, but I would not vote for any leader at any level who doesn't believe in evolution - that's my opinion.
I'm also not impressed by the HSA proposition - people who have enough money seem to assume that every one does, and if they don't, it's just too bad, so sad, better luck in the next life. Medical care is just way too costly, and that's the problem that needs to be resolved.
 

jaminjim

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I'd be very relieved to have him as surgeon if one were needed for anyone in my family, but I would not vote for any leader at any level who doesn't believe in evolution - that's my opinion.
I'm also not impressed by the HSA proposition - people who have enough money seem to assume that every one does, and if they don't, it's just too bad, so sad, better luck in the next life. Medical care is just way too costly, and that's the problem that needs to be resolved.
That is the single most important thing? That is your litmus test? You misspoke right? Who cares what their opinion is in regards to us coming from slugs or the hand of God?
 

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Layout Thanks for posting this my wife and I just finished watching that speech on youtube. It was great. I have A great amount of respect for Ben Carson and have read one of his books. I'm gong to pick up his latest one he mentioned at the breakfast. Thanks Again.
 

Humble2drive

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That is the single most important thing? That is your litmus test? You misspoke right? Who cares what their opinion is in regards to us coming from slugs or the hand of God?

I have read the post that you quoted very carefully and could not find any wording that states evolution as the "single" most important thing.
Most readers would deduce that while there could be many reasons the poster may or may not vote for someone, non-belief in evolution would be one of them in this case.
As for "who cares what their opinion is"?. Evolution vs Creationism is a divisive issue in the U.S.. One recent Gallup poll found:

46% accepted "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so."

That leaves 54% who may care.
 

jaminjim

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First let me say that I may be guilty of Fox newsing it, at least a little.

I have read the post that you quoted very carefully and could not find any wording that states evolution as the "single" most important thing.
That is correct, but of all the things the guy lacks (or might be lacking in) To mention that (evolution) as being a deal breaker and nothing else told me that she considers it to be one of the most important issues when deciding on a leaders qualifications.
Most readers would deduce that while there could be many reasons the poster may or may not vote for someone, non-belief in evolution would be one of them in this case.
True, but she didn't mention any. I would think that when giving reasons to disqualify someone I think I would try and start with the most important ones first. (keep in mind I said I may have foxed it some)
As for "who cares what their opinion is"?. Evolution vs Creationism is a divisive issue in the U.S..
What isn't a divisive issue anymore?



That leaves 54% who may care.
 

cheri1122

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That is the single most important thing? That is your litmus test? You misspoke right? Who cares what their opinion is in regards to us coming from slugs or the hand of God?

It's not the most important thing, it's just the first thing I read about Dr Carson that would be a nogo for me. which shouldn't be surprising, as he isn't a candidate, even, yet.
Why it matters is because I believe that freedom of religion includes freedom from religion, and the creationists tend to be people who cannot separate their religion from anything/everything else. Of course there are exceptions - I'm just generalizing, but absent any evidence that the Dr could and would put his personal religious views aside when making decisions for the good of all citizens, I wouldn't endorse his leadership of all citizens.
Not surprisingly, the more one is committed to a particular theology, the less able one is to leave it out of their decisionmaking process.
 
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