So OP, based on this thread I take it the book you're working on will be a work of fiction?
The Big Lie
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I'm just curious to know why he thinks $1.49 a loaded mile is "doubling our income"
I was thinking of deleting the thread for blantant company bashing, but I just find it too hilarious! "The big lie"? LoL...there are so many false statements and.assumptions made, I couldn't read it with a straight face!!
Wow!
Dale
I have my own authority, and Im pro own authority. BUT..,
I will say there is allot of hassle especialy since they rolled out the CSA 2010 B.S. Yes it takes some ability to learn and work with it, and it is tough at times, The advantage is I dont have to share fourty percent with somone just to handle a couple phone calls, and I say when, and where the truck rolls and I have say what goes on the truck and how much I want.
However when im not driving Im selling the truck to shippers, pushing paperwork, wrenching or paying a mechanic, ect., but thats the business. some guys make good money and some loose everything but what I'm doing works for me at least right now.
Tomorrow, or maby a couple seconds from now I might just come to my senses and say "you know, I think I might just lease onto annother company" By the way, when you work with a load broker you are on a short term lease. So, unless you are working your own coutomers you are leased.
Good luck no mater how you get the work.
Bob Wolf.
I will say there is allot of hassle especialy since they rolled out the CSA 2010 B.S. Yes it takes some ability to learn and work with it, and it is tough at times, The advantage is I dont have to share fourty percent with somone just to handle a couple phone calls, and I say when, and where the truck rolls and I have say what goes on the truck and how much I want.
However when im not driving Im selling the truck to shippers, pushing paperwork, wrenching or paying a mechanic, ect., but thats the business. some guys make good money and some loose everything but what I'm doing works for me at least right now.
Tomorrow, or maby a couple seconds from now I might just come to my senses and say "you know, I think I might just lease onto annother company" By the way, when you work with a load broker you are on a short term lease. So, unless you are working your own coutomers you are leased.
Good luck no mater how you get the work.
Bob Wolf.
paullud
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I was the one that commented back to him that if he adds up all the time doing all the regulatory garbage, payment, searching for loads, and rate confirmations that he wouldn't be as far ahead as he thought. The fact that all of the above is time consuming should be obvious and a lot of the times it can be well worth putting the risk of non-payment on the company's shoulders. The company I drive for is made up of O/O drivers, if the customer doesn't pay, the O/O doesn't get paid. There have been a couple of guys that got burned despite the fact that the brokers passed credit checks. I highly doubt that the earnings doubled after going independent, it probably went up some but that is because you are taking on more risk and responsibility.
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That depends on how you operate. If you deal with brokers or partner carriers you are probably right, on the other hand if you deal directly with shippers your earnings should more than double. Given the rates Panther and Fedex pays their vans we are talking closer to triple then double.
So David is going to write a book Eh?.....I see his motivation now...Bash one of the highest paying carriers to exaggerate the importance of his book and promote sales....
A review of your posts made over the years makes this a believable statement. If you made $1 a year for three years and then made $4 in the first year after going independent, the claim would be true that you made more money in year four than in the three previous years combined.
However, it remains to be proven that you rose above a hand-to-mouth financial existence at any time in your expediting career. Your previous posts suggest unstable business results up to the present day. I'm willing to reconsider this opinion but I'd need to see your tax returns for the last five years to believe anything you say about your business success.
Self delusion is the biggest lie of all, and also one of the best. You don't even know you are doing it but believe every word.
The Lord works in not so mysterious ways.
Yes, I did remove his posts on facebook and removed him from posting on our page. You are the only person we have ever done that too on facebook in 4 years of posting. That should tell you something. Facebook is not an open discussion forum as this site is and David was not even on topic. Honestly it was like he was doing an infomercial on our page about his secrets to success and how you can attend his free upcoming seminar. Where I am sure he will have his books for sale on how he made a fortune and was able to retire 3 years early that we keep hearing about.
I put more stock in my drivers that became owner operators and many that became fleet owners anyday! They are the real deal 100%. Our secret is free. Work hard, be fair, do the right thing, and have each others backs including the company. I don't need to write a book, but I am sure I could.
I have no idea what David's issue was with Load One as I personally have had no contact or ever met Dave. We started with all company tractors years ago. Today they are less than 20% of the fleet. I am guessing he had no knowledge of this or he might have asked the question first if he had any kind of noble intent. They are dispatched on a first in, first out basis. Big difference is company drivers do not have the ability to turn down loads like an owner operator can. We get no complaints about fairness and I have never had one owner operator come to me saying company trucks get preference. We are proud to showcase our new equipment and our capital investments in our company. Yes we own assets and yes that helps to make us even more financially stronger than many other carriers that have no assets and no brick and mortar. We are in this for the long haul!
Where I am sure he will have his books for sale on how he made a fortune and was able to retire 3 years early that we keep hearing about. I put more stock in my drivers that became owner operators and many that became fleet owners anyday! They are the real deal 100%. Our secret is free. Work hard, be fair, do the right thing, and have each others backs including the company. I don't need to write a book, but I am sure I could.
I have no idea what David's issue was with Load One as I personally have had no contact or ever met Dave. We started with all company tractors years ago. Today they are less than 20% of the fleet. I am guessing he had no knowledge of this or he might have asked the question first if he had any kind of noble intent. They are dispatched on a first in, first out basis. Big difference is company drivers do not have the ability to turn down loads like an owner operator can. We get no complaints about fairness and I have never had one owner operator come to me saying company trucks get preference. We are proud to showcase our new equipment and our capital investments in our company. Yes we own assets and yes that helps to make us even more financially stronger than many other carriers that have no assets and no brick and mortar. We are in this for the long haul!
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John please stop your company owned 53' drop deck trailers from scooping my 10 lb. loads
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The whole premise of the post is carriers that own equipment screw over their contractors. That's it in a nutshell! Being we have a similar business model the whole thing is just rediculous!
Technical note: we generally ban IP's from Vietnam, China and the Philippines because they abuse our bandwidth and create false SEO accounts. Somehow, this one got through. Which is fine because Dave has had an account on EO for sometime. I'm just saying 99% of posts from those countries are spam.
It just comes down to finding that right fit. We have done both and there are advantages to both. I could easily run under my own authority but chose a path that is in between. That way I can take advantage of what each has to offer. As of today, it has been a successful business model. Five years from now, maybe it isn't.
Make no mistake about it though, I seldom hesitate to go after a carrier that I think is ripping people off. I'm not following the premise of "The Big Lie".
If there was a indication that drivers were being taken advantage of, that would be one thing.
I'm not seeing it here unless one feels if a carrier makes a profit, that is somehow bad?
With regards to company equipment, it just comes down to how it is utilized. Some have taken advantage of contractors and some don't. This comes down to, "watch what they do, not what they say".
Is there other means in which to be profitable verses leased to a carrier? Sure there is.
But that doesn't mean one way is better than the other unless one is promoting one over the other with fantasy facts.
As for Facebook, ah....well it is Facebook.
Make no mistake about it though, I seldom hesitate to go after a carrier that I think is ripping people off. I'm not following the premise of "The Big Lie".
If there was a indication that drivers were being taken advantage of, that would be one thing.
I'm not seeing it here unless one feels if a carrier makes a profit, that is somehow bad?
With regards to company equipment, it just comes down to how it is utilized. Some have taken advantage of contractors and some don't. This comes down to, "watch what they do, not what they say".
Is there other means in which to be profitable verses leased to a carrier? Sure there is.
But that doesn't mean one way is better than the other unless one is promoting one over the other with fantasy facts.
As for Facebook, ah....well it is Facebook.
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fact is....Load 1 does have 2 company straight trucks that do local work.....when we O/O's can not cover the customer...they benefit us how?.....they at times make a pick up on a Friday that does not deliver till Monday and bring it back to the dock for the next unit that comes in....hence a load is covered and we make more $$$$$....an opportunity missed is money lost.....they ONLY do local work.
Thank you for that.....I like that on rare occasions like a weekend if i get to the yard on a Saturday or Sunday.....They sometimes have the local guy deliver it Monday for me...I lose a little bit of cash BUT I get an out going load that exceeds the lose big time....
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