The 50,000 dollar shot

clcooper

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Wow, glad you found this. You are right this kid couldn't win the prize anyway because he was not 18. You should make sure the insurance company knows this so they don't payout money they legally shouldn't.

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the parent can buy the ticket . the child can make the shot . if a prize is won the parent has to get the prize .
the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize

did they say nate smith you have been picked or did they read off the number of the ticket . what type of ticket was it ???

so how can anyone say what is right or wrong here NOBODY CAN

""His father, Pat Smith, had bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick ""

that is Forgery . soon this dad will be in jail for life . just like every parent .
 

paullud

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the parent can buy the ticket . the child can make the shot . if a prize is won the parent has to get the prize .
the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize

did they say nate smith you have been picked or did they read off the number of the ticket . what type of ticket was it ???

so how can anyone say what is right or wrong here NOBODY CAN

""His father, Pat Smith, had bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick ""

that is Forgery . soon this dad will be in jail for life . just like every parent .

So in this post you make it clear you understand that the ticket was put in a person's name but also act like it was done based off of a number. The article also stated the brother's name was called but again I guess you didn't read that far.

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clcooper

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Tickets like that always belong to the person whose name is on the ticket. Nice to write rules as you go but life doesn't work that way.

When large chance prizes are involved insurance is purchased by the promoters for a percentage of the actual prize cost. If the prize is legally won the insurance pays the full amount of the prize. It has been happening this way for more than two decades that I know of and probably much longer than that.

what does the ticket look like ??

here take your pick
raffle ticket - Bing Images


so glad you agree with the insurance companies being involved with this type of stuff .

SHOW ME the ticket SHOW ME the rules they had for the tickets . SHOW ME THE FACTS . you know them all to say this Dad did something illegal .

so the Dad lied and/or the child lied . every day we are all told lies from the government
 

paullud

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what does the ticket look like ??

here take your pick
raffle ticket - Bing Images


so glad you agree with the insurance companies being involved with this type of stuff .

SHOW ME the ticket SHOW ME the rules they had for the tickets . SHOW ME THE FACTS . you know them all to say this Dad did something illegal .

so the Dad lied and/or the child lied . every day we are all told lies from the government

Wow are you serious? It is clearly stated that the ticket was registered to one son, it is also clearly stated that son's name was called.

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clcooper

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So in this post you make it clear you understand that the ticket was put in a person's name but also act like it was done based off of a number. The article also stated the brother's name was called but again I guess you didn't read that far.

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and i guess you missed this . oh great one
""the parent can buy the ticket . the child can make the shot . if a prize is won the parent has to get the prize .
the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize ""

learn what a raffle ticket is before you post any thing more . because you wont believe what i post and cant COMPREHEND what i post

like it does not matter what name is on the ticket dont you COMPREHEND

""did they say nate smith you have been picked or did they read off the number of the ticket . COMPREHEND what type of ticket was it ???"" COMPREHEND

The father committed fraud
and i said ""His father, Pat Smith, had bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick ""

COMPREHEND that is Forgery . COMPREHEND soon this dad will be in jail for life .COMPREHEND just like every parent .
""actually his twin brother who was registered to participate""
""bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick,""
so which is it registered or put down the name ??

""The family did not expect their ticket to be drawn so Nick was outside the stadium when his name was called.""
did the ticket say must be present ??? did they say when (to help you COMPREHEND what time ) the tickets were going to be pulled ??

""However, the family may never see the check because the father later fessed up.""

i just found a way to Balance the Budget . take the checks from all the ones in the government that has ever told a lie . and i bet that will bring even enough in that we could buy the USA back from china .
 

clcooper

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Wow are you serious? It is clearly stated that the ticket was registered to one son, it is also clearly stated that son's name was called.

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BUT WHERE ARE THE RULES STATED AT
AND WHAT PART CANT YOU COMPREHEND WITH OUT SEEING THE TICKET AND THE RULES HOW CAN YOU MAKE A JUDGEMENT
WHAT PART DODNT YOU COMPREHEND """"the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize ""
 

paullud

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and i guess you missed this . oh great one
""the parent can buy the ticket . the child can make the shot . if a prize is won the parent has to get the prize .
the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize ""

So you made something up on your own, that proves nothing.

learn what a raffle ticket is before you post any thing more . because you wont believe what i post and cant COMPREHEND what i post

like it does not matter what name is on the ticket dont you COMPREHEND

I don't of people can comprehend what you post, not because of us, it is just really bizarre.

""did they say nate smith you have been picked or did they read off the number of the ticket . COMPREHEND what type of ticket was it ???"" COMPREHEND

Yes they specifically called the brother's name. Try reading the article, the things you are questioning are all answered there, you just need to read past the headline.

and i said ""His father, Pat Smith, had bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick ""

COMPREHEND that is Forgery .

Right the ticket was put in one son's name but the other took the shot, this was fraud.

COMPREHEND soon this dad will be in jail for life .COMPREHEND just like every parent .

I don't think he will be sent to jail, he never took the money.

""actually his twin brother who was registered to participate""
""bought a raffle ticket for the event but put down the name of Nate's twin, Nick,""
so which is it registered or put down the name ??

To register the son they had to write down his name, so it is both.

""The family did not expect their ticket to be drawn so Nick was outside the stadium when his name was called.""
did the ticket say must be present ??? did they say when (to help you COMPREHEND what time ) the tickets were going to be pulled ??

Yes it said they must be present, they did have to be there to physically take the shot. How else would they win? Yes it stated when the drawing was to take place.

""However, the family may never see the check because the father later fessed up.""

i just found a way to Balance the Budget . take the checks from all the ones in the government that has ever told a lie . and i bet that will bring even enough in that we could buy the USA back from china .

I doubt it, we are in way more debt than that, especially to China.

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paullud

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BUT WHERE ARE THE RULES STATED AT
AND WHAT PART CANT YOU COMPREHEND WITH OUT SEEING THE TICKET AND THE RULES HOW CAN YOU MAKE A JUDGEMENT
WHAT PART DODNT YOU COMPREHEND """"the name on the ticket does not mean it has to be that person to make the shot . just they have to claim the prize ""

The ticket was registered to one son in his name, why are you not able to understand this?

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clcooper

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So you made something up on your own, that proves nothing.



I don't of people can comprehend what you post, not because of us, it is just really bizarre.



Yes they specifically called the brother's name. Try reading the article, the things you are questioning are all answered there, you just need to read past the headline.



Right the ticket was put in one son's name but the other took the shot, this was fraud.



I don't think he will be sent to jail, he never took the money.



To register the son they had to write down his name, so it is both.



Yes it said they must be present, they did have to be there to physically take the shot. How else would they win? Yes it stated when the drawing was to take place.



I doubt it, we are in way more debt than that, especially to China.

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nope i have bought raffle tickets before i know how they work

where did it say they had to be there .??
i have bought many that were drew and i wasnt there and if i won i still got my prize HUM somebody broke the law darn it i better tell them they need to hide

where does it say what time the drawing was going to held ??
so every time you write a name you are registering to something .

""The ticket was registered to one son in his name"" did they have to get it notarized too?? maybe they should of had their lawyer look over it before they signed it . and maybe they should of called the lawyer before they sent the other son up first .

signing somebodys name is Forgery NOT fraud.

just so glad you are so worried about this family lieing ,fraud ,forgery .and you want to hang them .
but when the government does that stuff you say oh well it is the government and dont say any more about it
you got some good standerds
 

paullud

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nope i have bought raffle tickets before i know how they work

So have I, and your point is?

where did it say they had to be there .??

It said it on the ticket and at the raffle booth. Again, the raffle was for a chance to take the shot, how can you take the shot if you are not there.

i have bought many that were drew and i wasnt there and if i won i still got my prize HUM somebody broke the law darn it i better tell them they need to hide

Yeah for you! So you entered a raffle that you didn't need to be present for and won. This was clearly not an option for this raffle.

where does it say what time the drawing was going to held ??

It was at the raffle booth.

so every time you write a name you are registering to something .

No but when you are entering a raffle and writing a name on the ticket you certainly are.

""The ticket was registered to one son in his name"" did they have to get it notarized too?? maybe they should of had their lawyer look over it before they signed it . and maybe they should of called the lawyer before they sent the other son up first .

No need to notarize the ticket but they were signing paperwork for it after the fact. Why call your lawyer to see if committing fraud was OK?

signing somebodys name is Forgery NOT fraud.

Right but sending the other son up there was fraud.

just so glad you are so worried about this family lieing ,fraud ,forgery .and you want to hang them .
but when the government does that stuff you say oh well it is the government and dont say any more about it
you got some good standerds

What in the world are you talking about? When did I ever say anything like that? Where do you come up with this? It is just mind boggling how you try to go after someone by just making things up or tossing in random things.

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clcooper

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So have I, and your point is?



It said it on the ticket and at the raffle booth. Again, the raffle was for a chance to take the shot, how can you take the shot if you are not there.



Yeah for you! So you entered a raffle that you didn't need to be present for and won. This was clearly not an option for this raffle.



It was at the raffle booth.



No but when you are entering a raffle and writing a name on the ticket you certainly are.



No need to notarize the ticket but they were signing paperwork for it after the fact. Why call your lawyer to see if committing fraud was OK?



Right but sending the other son up there was fraud.



What in the world are you talking about? When did I ever say anything like that? Where do you come up with this? It is just mind boggling how you try to go after someone by just making things up or tossing in random things.

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from the way you have been answering you have only bought a couple of raffle tickets .
now you know all raffles are not alike how can you say what you have been . with out being there your self

why notarize the ticket because you are treating the ticket as a contract and nobody else is aloud to use that ticket

when was it to be . you say it said it on the ticket. it said it at the booth . how do you know were you there .

did you not say the dad did fraud . that would be the first sentance .
for the second . what you say about .9/11, fema camps , nwo government and the other stupid stuff the government is doing .
 

paullud

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from the way you have been answering you have only bought a couple of raffle tickets .
now you know all raffles are not alike how can you say what you have been . with out being there your self

I have purchased many raffle tickets that have varying terms and conditions.

why notarize the ticket because you are treating the ticket as a contract and nobody else is aloud to use that ticket

Participation in a raffle means you are agreeing to their terms.

when was it to be . you say it said it on the ticket. it said it at the booth . how do you know were you there .

Yes I was there and entered the same raffle.


did you not say the dad did fraud . that would be the first sentance .
for the second . what you say about .9/11, fema camps , nwo government and the other stupid stuff the government is doing .

Yes I said the dad committed fraud because he did. About 9/11, I would say it was a terrorist act that was bad but despite all the evidence to the contrary there are a lot of gullible people that think it was an inside job. These gullible people cling to this belief even though it has been proven that the truther sites are run by liars and that science says they are wrong. FEMA camps were temporary housing in an emergency, some were good some were in bad condition. The NWO will be the downfall of America, there is no way to get all the other countries up to our standards so we will be brought down to theirs.

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