That worked well

[Turtle]

It was a slur and insult, generally, against liberals.

If you look up the definitions of those words, you will see neither applies here. There was no insult, there was no slur. The statement made was that he can't wait to hear the excuses for why this sort of thing could happen, and in particular he wants to hear the excuses which are liberal. That's not an insult nor a slur. Sorry.

I can't wait to hear the conservative excuses for why this sort of thing could even happen. I am sure that they have some sort of BS to explain it away.

I can't wait to hear the Christian excuses for why this sort of thing could even happen. I am sure that they have some sort of BS to explain it away.

I can't wait to hear the Catholic excuses for why this sort of thing could even happen. I am sure that they have some sort of BS to explain it away.

I can't wait to hear the Negro excuses for why this sort of thing could even happen. I am sure that they have some sort of BS to explain it away.

So, is it your assertion that the mere mention of any group is the equivalent of an insult? If he had used Law Enforcement or The Judiciary, that would be an insult? How about Boy Scouts?

Plus, if you look at what he wrote, "liberal" isn't even a group (noun), it's an adjective describing the predicate "excuses." It refers to the type of excuses he can't wait to hear. The second sentence pronoun "they" refers to the actual excuses. He didn't say "liberals'" or "liberal's" or "liberals" excuses, he said "liberal excuses," so I'm not sure how you can conclude he was insulting liberals. And even if he did say that, specifically meaning any or all liberals, I'm still not sure how it would be an insult. Where is the insolence, the affrontedness, the contemptuous rudeness?

It is my assumption that if one makes a rule, there is a reason for doing so, and that it was done with the intent of enforcing it in a fair and even-handed manner.

Your assumption would be correct.

If wants wants to excuse and defend violations of a rule, that's certainly a call that one can make.

But it provides a context, in which all future enforcements of a particular rule will be viewed.

JMHO.

Well, now you know that the mere mention of a group does not in and of itself constitute an insult. Nor does stating the opinion that a particular group will have some sort of BS reply equate to an insult. And for the record, an opinion of dislike or disagreement with a particular group or individual also does not an insult make. In order for it to be an insult, it needs to meet the actual definition of, you know, an insult.

Now, back to on-topic, please.

 

[zorry]

Prior to getting back on topic I'd like ti applaud Turtle for the effort he puts forth moderating here.

Wether you agree with him or not, you ought to applaud his effort.

 

[jamom123]

I like Turtles response, LOS wasn't insulting anyone.

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[Turtle]

The FIRST set they cut off SHOULD have been a DIRE warning. It was NOT headed and now, assuming they are guilty of this, at LEAST 4 women were raped and murdered. We are FAR to soft and forgiving of criminals.

They did not DESERVE R&R in Vegas. They deserved to be locked away. They had already proven they were no good, and assuming they did this, confirmed it.

How many MORE chances after this one?

I'm not a fan of early release on the condition of a GPS ankle bracelet for anyone other than non-violent offenders. In a case of "lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14" I don't think they should have had early release at all. However, the fact remains, the overwhelming majority of people released with GPS bracelets do not go out and commit rape and murder while on parole. I don't agree with your position that cutting off the first set should have been a DIRE warning of impending rape and murder, as they had no (known) history of either. I also don't agree that anyone who is convicted of a crime, even one of "lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14," should be sentenced forever to a dungeon, or death, on the off chance that they might later commit another or worse crime. I do agree that after violating the terms of their parole they should have not been afforded any other terms and their parole should have been immediately and permanently revoked.

 

[layoutshooter]

Many child molesters go on to bigger and more disgusting crimes. There is just NO excuse for these two to have been on the street. I consider child molestation a violent crime. I for one could have foreseen this happening.

If you don't like dungeons, fine, put them on the moon, then we could "retrieve" them later, when they are 90 years old or so. Then there would not be a "life sentence".

Any way I am off for my pick up, then another load tomorrow, so have fun without me.

 

[Turtle]

Many child molesters go on to bigger and more disgusting crimes. There is just NO excuse for these two to have been on the street. I consider child molestation a violent crime. I for one could have foreseen this happening.

I agree with you, except, most child molesters do not go on to raping and murdering adults.

 

[layoutshooter]

My load is not ready yet.

They may not, but they WILL likely continue molesting children. Either way, they should never see the light of day. The repeat offense rate is far too high to take a chance.

 

[aquitted]

Most child molesters leave prison in a body bag.

 

[zorry]

Most child molesters leave prison in a body bag.

Unless you have DuPont money.

 

[usafk9]

Most child molesters leave prison in a body bag.

Wrong. Most leave on parole.

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[davekc]

Wrong. Most leave on parole.

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That really is unfortunate.

 

[LDB]

They should all be leaving physically castrated.

 

[aquitted]

Wrong. Most leave on parole.

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I did 5 yrs in federal how long did you do?

 

[usafk9]

Twelve. Wife did 15.

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[zorry]

You could have been out earlier for good behavior.

Now you all are prisoners of the highway.

 

[usafk9]

You could have been out earlier for good behavior.

Now you all are prisoners of the highway.

It's not in my DNA. Nor the Puerto Rican's. You notice I said that she did 15.



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[aquitted]

Twelve. Wife did 15.

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Sorry not buying it because if that was so you would no that my statement is true.
If maybe you worked in admin or A C.O. you weren't con's, the cons run the prisons not admin and for sure not the C.Os.

 

[usafk9]

Sorry not buying it because if that was so you would no that my statement is true.
If maybe you worked in admin or A C.O. you weren't con's, the cons run the prisons not admin and for sure not the C.Os.

Not buying what?

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[layoutshooter]

There is somewhere between a 25-45% repeat offense rate for this type of disgusting crime. What I find amazing is that there are many people are willing to put the public in danger from these types of offenders. Let's put it this way, if you knew that there was a 25-40% chance that the airplane you were about to board was going to crash, would you board it? Yet we seem to have NO problem endangering the lives of the general public. Makes it worse when it is often innocent children being harmed.

 

[cheri1122]

Well that idea worked well. Two parolees, both sex offenders, both wearing GPS tracking devices, worked together to rape and murder AT LEAST 4 women. To make matters worse, both had cut off GPS tracking devices in the past.

Yep, turning loose these kinds of convicts seems to be a really good idea. If we are not going to put this kind of scum to death they should as least be tossed into a deep, dark, damp, dungeon and the keys lost forever.

Those women's family SHOULD be able to sue the agencies who allowed this to happen for wrongful death. There is just no excuse. State and federal government SHOULD be held responsible when these things happen, that includes individuals on the parole board. After all, they are the one's who released these scum bags.

I can't wait to hear the liberal excuses for why this sort of thing could even happen. I am sure that they have some sort of BS to explain it away.




Chief: Suspects wore GPS devices during killings


https://in.news.yahoo.com/chief-suspects-wore-gps-devices-during-killings-233820619.html

First: until they were found to have killed several women, these 'scum' were just sex offenders, and a civilized society doesn't throw people in a deep, dark, damp, dungeon and lose the keys for that. [Unless it was a truly atrocious crime.]
Second: cutting off the ankle bracelets to indulge in some R&R is hardly the kind of crime that calls for the death penalty, either. One of my favorite books is the story [written by Maurice Herzog] of some WW2 POWs who escaped their prison in the French Alps, in order to climb the mountain they could see in the distance. [Which turned out to be Mont Blanc, a world class climb]. They had only a tin of corned beef with the mountain on the label for planning the route, and all their gear was handmade, but climb it they did. And then, they returned to the prison camp, lol.
So, not every lawbreaker is deserving of severe punishment. And LEOs don't get a magic crystal ball to know what anyone is 'going to' do, and that makes it tough to stop them.
It's tough for the rest of us, but the alternative [locking people up for suspicions] is not acceptable to a civilized society.
Maybe the murdered womens' families agree that suing the authorities who "allowed it to happen" is a good idea, but I don't - imprisoning people for something they haven't done [but might do] is something our legal system is meant to prevent.
It's not perfect, but it's better than any other system, IMO.