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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
The new FedEx pay schedule went into effect September 18th. Because Diane and I are predispatched through Friday, October 20th (and if we assume no loads cancel), we can evaluate our first month under the new FedEx pay schedule with real numbers.

I looked at three 30-day periods; the current 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2006 (new schedule); month ago 30 days, August 18 to September 17, 2006 (old schedule); and year-ago 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2005 (old schedule).

In these three time periods, our run counts were about the same, miles (loaded and deadhead combined) are higher under the new schedule, gross revenue is higher under the new schedule, and the pay per mile is lower under the new schedule (owing more to deadhead decisions we made for personal reasons than anything else).

Regarding fuel, diesel was $3.15 a year ago (national average, 10/10/05), and $2.51 now (10/09/06). Thus, while fuel came down (and the surcharge with it), our revenue went up.

What conclusions can Diane and I draw from the numbers at this point?

None at all.

It is too early to tell from the numbers how the new schedule will affect us in the long run. Our decision to go out of service for a day to sleep, or to pass up a load so we can finish a family visit, or to deadhead a great distance for a load we would otherwise decline because we want to go the direction that freight is going, affects our numbers as much as the new schedule does.

After running several months under the new schedule, such variables will blend together and lose their ability to weight the numbers one way or another. For now, our numbers give us no reason to be unhappy with the new schedule or consider a change of carriers.

I know there is a lot of feeling out there about what FedEx should do or not do, what they should or should not care about, and how executives there should or should not feel about truck drivers. Diane and I are not having a "should" conversation. We're having a numbers conversation. As real-world numerical results become available, we will base our decisions on them.

Thirty days into the new schedule, it is so-far, so-good for us. Thus, it has not even entered our mind to incur the down time and expense of a carrier change. We have no reason to risk a carrier change that could very easily become a jump from the frying pan into the fire.

It is entirely possible that other folks would have different numbers. Indeed, new schedule or old, it is common for similar trucks to have greatly-varying numbers over short periods of time.

I recommend two things:

A. Base your decisons on your numbers, not on how you feel.

B. Give the numbers time to develop and time for the variables to fade in significance. One month of numbers under the new schedule is not enough to tell the story.
 

barbaba704

Expert Expediter
It is very interesting to see the various interpretations and explanations of the events that have transpired at FECC regarding the FSC, deadhead calculations. What I think is evident here is that FedEx CC did and has done a very poor job of explaining why they did it and how it works. As business partners (which we are with them) although not on a 50/50 basis in terms of power or authority, we were owed an explanation of why it was being done and how it would work. That would have eliminated alot of the angst, anger, confusion, and misinformation that has been displayed in this site. The way in which they imposed the contract amendments on us has bred a sense of mistrust ("what are they doing with all the extra money that is not payed out for the long deadheads to obscure express centers?"). To my knowledge no survey or representative of the o/o's participated in the decision to change the contract. And no report to the o/o with options were offered. Without transparency, the policy appears deceitful and to some, felonious. Throughout the industry FSC's belong to the one who payes for the fuel. FedEx has never even offered to pay my fuel, so I have difficulty with the idea that I was not asked about how MY money is to be distributed. One of the perinial complaints by owners was the low amount paid for deadhead miles and that not all DH miles were paid and that tolls were not paid. FedEX took it upon themselves to address this issue with MY (OUR) money. And we do not get an accounting for those funds. I think that in the interest of transparency, all FSC moneys should go into an account from which all reduced FSC's, deadhead miles, tolls, etc. are paid and on a quarterly basis, a report of that account is made to the o/o's. On an annual basis if there is a positive balance than at least a portion of that is distributed to the o/o based on some kind of equitable formula. If there is a negative balance than we can all agree to a change in the way the money is paid out. In this was we are participating partners with FedEx in handling OUR money.
In a way, the old method accomplished the above. We got the FSC on the trip we drove and we saved or used the extra money from that trip to cover our costs for those trips we took that didn't have an FSC or had a reduced FAC. We also used it to cover our own deadhead miles. This had all the transparency we needed as we could see in our settlements the FSC we were paid and we made our own decisions of how it was used. I am the first to admit, on many of our trips, the FSC was far in excess of what the fuel cost for that particular trip. But when you factor in the unpaid and underpaid DH, tolls etc., the amount was pretty reasonable. The main factor is that we made our own decisions about OUR money.

In a perverse way it reminds me an explanation of the difference between capitalism and communism (I am not saying that FedEx is communist!). It is a comment on the difference between economic decision making by individuals vs. central planning.
"Under capitalism we are unequally wealthy depending on individual choices. Under communism we are equally poor depending on the choices of the state." This is somewhat paraphrased but it is accurate in meaning.

Our experience since the change in the contract is the same as many who have posted here. Generally a decline in gross revenue for both surface express and WG. Because of the short time involved it is impossible to know know the cause or causes for this. Or there may be no cause at all, just a general decline in business, despite that historically this should be our busy time. As has been said more eloquently elsewhere in this thread, time will tell so we will just have to give it more time.

I must say that this forum has been a great discussion and shows me how many intelligent and thoughtful people we have out here.

George and Barbara
 

kinilu57

Expert Expediter
George and Barbara,

That was extremely well thought-out and very intelligently stated. Good Job!!!! Everyone on here has made insightful comments. It is up to us individually how we feel about the way it was presented and introduced. You said it beautiful!!!!!!


Cindy and Brian
FECC D6084
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
What I think is
>evident here is that FedEx CC did and has done a very poor
>job of explaining why they did it and how it works.

I agree 100%. Had FedEx been more thoughtful and proactive in preparing their explaination of the new deal, much of the critical firestorm could have been avoided.
 

fastrod

Expert Expediter
Fedex CC is a expediting company that has loads to be moved. They offer these loads to there leased O/O at a rate that they choose to pay. You as a O/O decide if you will run the load or not for what they will pay. They do not owe you an explanation of how they arrived at that rate. Any money they recieve from the shipper for moving the load is between Fedex CC and the shipper. If a fuel surcharge or toll money is included it is up to Fedex CC as to what they do with this money. It is not your money, it is there money. If they choose to keep it for themselves, that is there right as there is no law saying it is yours. You are not there business partner. If you were you would get a percentage of the Fedex CC profits each year.
 
G

guest

Guest
Fastrod not to step on your toes here. But the FSC is charged to the customer to help with the cost of the person paying Fuel. FedEx Custom Critical Does not own any trucks and does not pay for FUEL on one load they move. So to say it's their money, your wrong!!! It's the person who is paying for the fuel not FedEx. Why should money being charged to a customer to help with the cost of Fuel for the one paying it be taken away from the one who pay's it.


Drive Safe
David Mayfield
O/O since 1/27/95
 

bernieh48

Veteran Expediter
The only part of that that's not true is the FSC part. That is NOT their money to decide on who gets it and who doesn't. It is a federal law that whoever is buying the fuel gets 100% of the FSC. That is on the OOIDA website.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I think that is where these issues conflict. It isn't the fact that you decide whether to take a run or not, it is the fact that they say they are collecting a FSC on your behalf, and then keeping it for themselves.
If not, they would have let you keep your old contract. If you kept your old one, your FSC would require the driver to give them 42 percent of it whether you liked it or not.
Not a bad slush fund.
As an outsider, that would be the issue of concern. Not whether a run is profitable or not.
As a fleet owner, I can make a run very profitable, but I wouldn't dream of telling my teams that I have now decided to pocket 42 percent of their FSC.

Bernie48.......I don't believe that is actually a law. It was a subject in several bills that never got voted on or were defeated.










Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator
 

FAMILYEXPDT

Seasoned Expediter
As of right now it is their money...there is no law stating that whoever buys the fuel gets 100% of fuel surcharge. That is one of the things that OOIDA is lobbying for:

http://www.ooida.com/voting/legislative_issues.htm


It has not been passed yet...mostly because of the lobbying ppower of the TSA which represents the largest trucking companies more than anyone...they do not want to have to pass thru fsc to owners. If you want that to change then vote.....call your congressman or woman and make it change.



-Charlotte
 

fastrod

Expert Expediter
The fsc money should go to the person paying for the fuel. That is only right, but legally Fedex CC is collecting the money and can do with it what they want. What they are doing is proping up there bottom line at your expense.
 

davebeckym

Expert Expediter
The cheap shippers need to learn that expedited freight is expedited faster when you pay the full rates and FSC.

Taking FSC from the companies that are paying it and giving it to the cheap companies that refuse to pay it lowers rates for everyone. Plus the cheap companies get their freight moved just as fast as the companies paying the FSC because their freight is being subsidized.

Say no to cheap freight and cheap carriers.

Lobby for congress to pass a law making full FSC payable to the person paying the fuel.

Ask your carrier to pay full FSC to the fuel buyer and not subsidize the shippers who don't.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
coco when you get the same layover option,1 and 2 that means dva didnt put in the layover but planning did,and planning felt they needed you in those spots,only time i do their lay overs are if i get the same layover 1 and 2
fed ex cc since 1984
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ooida263839
steve gilbert
 

mcbride

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
The new FedEx pay schedule went into effect September 18th. Because Diane and I are predispatched through Friday, October 20th (and if we assume no loads cancel), we can evaluate our first month under the new FedEx pay schedule with real numbers.

I looked at three 30-day periods; the current 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2006 (new schedule); month ago 30 days, August 18 to September 17, 2006 (old schedule); and year-ago 30 days, September 18 to October 17, 2005 (old schedule).

Our new truck has been in service since June 15, 2006.
From 6/15/06 to 8/17/06, our acceptance rate was 71.43%.
From 8/19/06 to 10/26/06, our acceptance rate was 88.24%.

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I am curious as to how many other people are pre-dispatched this far in advance. I am also curious as to what, if any, the acceptance rate differences are between WG and Surface Expedite divisions.

-mcbride-
--What goes around comes around--
 
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