Team looking for good owners

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
I have a friend who is an experienced flatbed t/t driver. His wife will be joining him on the road soon. He wants to be her trainer. I have strongly encouraged them to research the expedited field as I feel it is a much better lifestyle for a h/w team.

I am looking for anyone who would be willing to advise/mentor my friends and help them get started. I would love to get them in contact with some good fleet owners and some successful teams.

If anyone would be willing to contact them, pm me and let me know and I can get you their contact information...or give them yours. I'm pretty sure that they will need to contact by phone as he is generally out on the road and has no internet access.

Thanks, Rocketman
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Rocketman asked specifically for some successful teams & good fleet owners to mentor a newbie h/w team - does the article provide the information he's requesting?
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Announcement to all...........Please stay on top of the subject at hand. We just can't have all this drifting to and fro. We don't care if you've been expediting 4 years, 10 years, or 20 years, if you can't keep it EXACTLY on topic, you will be publicly called out. Oh, and if your name is Phil, be warned that the above will happen more often.

Give me a break, the man is trying to help. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings, he has a lot to contribute and it gets old watching him be your whipping pup. Maybe most of us should just fade away and leave the advice-giving to a "chosen few".

Oh, and about the sarcasm is not a replacement for arguement comment, maybe not but arguing with a know-it-all idiot is the same as arguing with a drunk....it just can't be done successfully. IMHO, of course.
 

CozDream

Seasoned Expediter
Chimes in:
"does the article provide the information he's requesting?"

initial post reads:
"I have strongly encouraged them to research the expedited field as I feel it is a much better lifestyle for a h/w team."


I'd feel the average person with average intelligence could see the link to Phils article and the initial post.

Things must be dang awefull slow today that you'd dig this deep just to initiate some more classic mud-slingin' -shamefull-
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
>
>I am looking for anyone who would be willing to
>advise/mentor my friends and help them get started. I would
>love to get them in contact with some good fleet owners and
>some successful teams.
>
>If anyone would be willing to contact them, pm me and let me
>know and I can get you their contact information...or give
>them yours. I'm pretty sure that they will need to contact
>by phone as he is generally out on the road and has no
>internet access.
>
>Thanks, Rocketman

I don't see how the specific question asked could be misinterpreted here - the man already knows where to find general information on expediting for newbies, (he found this site), and he asked for something else. The reply didn't address the question asked.
Kind of funny, that those who insist there's a "Pick on Phil" group, demonstrate the very same behavior they object to, isn't it?
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
WOW!

I'll be sure to direct them to this thread! LOL

They do have internet at home...and I have directed them to this site already. I am a solo driver and a newbie so I would prefer that they get their information from others. They can read all they want, but I think personal contact would definitely be best.

Rocketman
 

CozDream

Seasoned Expediter
> Kind of funny,

Quite the contrary




Back on topic:

first paragraph


"I have strongly encouraged them to research the expedited field as I feel it is a much better lifestyle for a h/w team."

Obvious that the couple HAVE NOT been regular visitors of EO. The author may be, not the couple. So, to have the couple READ Phils article is once again....relevent. What's NOT funny is your persistant
degregation of someone's good intentions.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
I am sure that will give the new team a real positive perspective on expediters.

We would be more then happy to talk to them if you want to PM me I will send you back some of our information.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
"Kind of funny, that those who insist there's a "Pick on Phil" group, demonstrate the very same behavior they object to, isn't it?"

As long as you see part of your job as mod being to pick apart some, not all, then some of us will find it our job to call you on it. If the shoe fits...........
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
"I am sure that will give the new team a real positive perspective on expediters."

Correct Linda, more of us should stay aware of just how the newcomer might perceive us here.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
It isn't people I disagree with, it's the words - whether those words are vulgar, or simply irrelevant (as far as answering a specific question), if it seems to me the words need questioned, then I will question them. Doesn't matter whose words they are, it's the words that count.
I stand ready to defend my own words, as well, if anyone has need to question them.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
> Rocketman asked specifically for some successful teams &
>good fleet owners to mentor a newbie h/w team - does the
>article provide the information he's requesting?

Yes, it does.
 

kwexpress

Veteran Expediter
KW Express
o/o till i die

I have never met or even talked to A-team but I would say him and his wife have alot of info to share with newbies and the original post did say his freind was on the road without internet access and phil was just offering up some info the poster could print out and share with the team.it was on topic.

I have visited this site for years it aint the first time the a-team got blasted and not the last im sure.

but it just makes me sick when the blasting comes from a mod.seems to me someone should else needs to be called out not the a-team
 

CozDream

Seasoned Expediter
>KW Express

>but it just makes me sick when the blasting comes from a
>mod.seems to me someone should else needs to be called out
>not the a-team


This Cherry mod's just a puppet in the hands of her elder cohorts. She's just mirror'ing and posturing the endless assault iniated and produced by her more senior mods. This produced action is deliberate, and by no means condusive. She's just responding to a script. There will be no calling out, as that would effect the majority of those who find it neccessary to label themselves with that redicolous mod signature.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
If you call asking whether the reply answered the specific question asked being "blasted", then we don't even speak the same language.
BTW, I am a Moderator no longer - the flak for doing what I thought was my job has exceeded my tolerance.
I wish my replacement all the luck in the world, and will do whatever I can to support him/her, in a job that isn't easy by anyone's definition - whatever language you speak.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
OMG, you kiddies are so...... IATITMACFOI!

I ignored this thread all day long, maybe I should have dropped into it earlier when I was in a foul mood?

My comments may sound very sarcastic and caustic but... maybe they are?

First thing is, I am a Phil basher according to some from my nastygrams I get every once in a while, so I am going to Phil bashing anonymous and going to go through the 12 step program and hope to recover soon. Happy now?

The second thing is Cheri did not bash Phil in any way shape or form but asked a very legitimate question – how does the document fit into the question being asked? Phil should have answered with his usual answer but didn’t. Instead everyone jumped on Cheri for asking a real question.

Oh got to add this, I can say this I have had in the past had to judge things being said on forums because I was either a moderator or an administrator which the latter can be fun (that was the sarcastic part) and her question I would expect to see posted to draw out more comments and suggestions about the thread’s first post and the document referenced.

The third thing is, if you want to know why I am still on the fence with being a moderator here, this thread and one comment made which is all I am going to say.

The fourth thing is, unlike many of you I have met Phil and Diane a couple times (I will not tell where or when but it is true I actually met them), I think that they are very nice people, I like their truck and really like the way he has the box setup but that does not stop me from posting my comments on what he says or prevent me from saying he is wrong from my point of view, it is not bashing at all – it is called exercising my point of view for others.

If I wanted to build an exclusive Phil bashing audience I would just create my own Phil bashing forum and invite people over there to… well … bash Phil. I think between the Domain name registering and the setting it up my server, I will have spent a whole 20 minutes of work and $10 – but the entertainment value to some would be priceless. I don’t do it because I am not here to bash Phil, I am here to help others, so the guy who is getting ready to send that nastygram don’t bother.

The fifth thing is, his piece is really good but not many experienced expediters have read it or care to and I think Cheri didn’t read it yet (nothing wrong with that is there?) but again she asked the Author (you know that it the person who wrote it and created it from those neutrons and electrons floating in their head) to explain how it helps, which for many would be excellent (maybe if I get a chance tonight I will write to Harper Lee and ask her how her book would fit into my world). I normally do something that many think I shouldn’t, I take the PDF file of his document and print it on my LJ2200 or LJ8000 duplex printers – maybe I will print 20 copies at a time, maybe 30 copies and when I am asked I will hand the person a bundle of information which includes a copy of his work – do you all do this by the way?

By the way, as an author, promoting a piece is the best praise I can offer to another author.

The sixth thing, for those “off topic†people, well…. never mind.

So for those who don’t want to read what I wrote, here is a quick summary;

• Cheri is right in asking the question, you are wrong in jumping on her.
• Phil’s piece is a good starting point.
• I support his piece but I normally disagree with him because it is my opinion that I don’t agree and it is not bashing when someone disagrees with him.
• I print copies of his piece and bundle them with other articles I have publishing rights to and hand them out to people who ask me questions.
• Oh...... I should add something else....never mind.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Anything disagreeing or correcting Phil is automatically "bashing" Phil. I don't think that's the case. On the contrary... anyone who claims what Phil has, or has accomplished what Phil has, deserves to be questioned more, or called to back his stuff up.

CozDream... for someone who has 17 posts on this site (2 of which were on this thread), who are you? How do you know so much about what goes on here?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but a number of ppl who defend Phil have only a few posts, and those are only when they deem Phil is being attacked. Something to make ya go "hmmm". Since I believe this to be the case, I don't see defending the mods against what I see as a "ghost".

Diva... you believe what you want to believe. Nothing anyone says will make a difference. Nuff said.

As you can see, I did not bash Phil at all. I didn't even question him. But I see nothing wrong with what Cheri said, and I support her 100%. This isn't a mod supporting a mod thing. It's a member supporting a respected member thing. Call it what you want, but there was no disrespect in what she wrote.

-True independence can only be gained if you're trully independant.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
This has gone on long enough and this thread was not started for this purpose! It needs to end enough bashing.
 
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