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Are you willing to give up the .05 fuel discount?...for a TA program

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Work4free

Work4free

Active Expediter
When we were at E-1 we had what I thought was the best discount thing going........it varried from TA/PETRO to TA/PETRO. Some gave us as much as .50 per gal discount......others 0.00 Every week a list came out and was posted to the E-1 web site. You would have to download it and determine for yourself where to stop for fuel based on the amount of discount you recieved alog the trip. Like I said YOU had to do your homework.........no offence but if you ain't paying for the fuel......would you go thru the trouble for your owner.....:confused: just to save him a few bucks you the driver never see..... aalso it seemed every time we looked at the Com-Data card we were charged 5.00. Maybe it was just the carrier.......maybe comdata likes there card to much......to many hidden fees. %5 to load the card, 5.00 to check the ballance......if you don't take cash at the fuel pump its an atm fee.....and on and on......comdata suxs.....sorry is that the card we are talking about going to......if it is i want to change my vote.to noooooo:rolleyes:
 
ChrisGa23

ChrisGa23

Expert Expediter
I personally like TA's cause they offer more items in store to choose from, food choices, seems to be a little cleaner etc. But cant beat pilot for fueling up. They are on almost every corner. Just wish they would change up and put in different restaurants. Im happy with our current discount program. .05 is better than nothing I will take that any day.
 
R

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
How many have looked into NASTC? I used them in the straight truck and could see pretty good discounts on occassion.
 
SWTexas1

SWTexas1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'm Confused as to the Question, are we asking which chain due we like better? Or is the question due want to save money on fuel?
TA/Petro overall is a better and more Driver friendly chain. As Pilot/Flying J goes most of us all Know which one Not to Stop at for a shower.
So I'll take the Discount and head on down the road.
 
Dynamite 1

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
no need to apologize, its discussion. suppose to be this way, just as long as nobody takes their ball and goes home all is good.

them theres the rules.

reminder, #1 / we're all family
#2 / we're all big boys and girls

we to are guilty of pushing on john for a better discount program and changing fuel stops. we had a very in depth conversation about this. john explained how and why and what he needs to do. while it may not be what we like we do have choices as he pointed out earlier. when a better program is presented we are sure we will get it. you all know he is always looking out for our and his best interest.

next is there seems some confusion on cards, we are not talking about changing card companies just programs fleet one has to offer. fleet one has a discount program with t/a petro so you dont have to give up your fpj discount to change to t/a petro. maybe thats where the confusion is. we are against going to comdata also, but thats not what we are talking about.

nastc was mentioned, that is a program that fleet one is associated with but for reasons, john isnt interested. john wants a simple xx amount off cash price at whatever fuel stops we use. the biggest problem, which i mentioned before, or at least what stood out to us when we had our conversation was the the confusion that the floating discount program creates for him and payroll. we fully understand where he is coming from on this point. to many complaints and calls saying you charged me this amount and i thought it was this or people simply not knowing what they are paying.. as i stated before and as you all probably know also, there are people who are clueless when it comes to their business. we have all talked to them and yes i do mean here at load one. for as many true business people we have here, we also have the clueless who keep track of nothing. the one thing we all are sure of is that when a better discount with fleet one presents itself we will get it.
 
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chefdennis

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
shadow7663 said:
I will keep the Pilot discount....thanks!
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i use to use my own CC (strictly for gas) and the Ultra card at TA and showered there also...The fact that John offers the use of the Fleet One card, the discount for the diesels users, and all the other benefits that being signed on with Load 1 offers us is more then enough for this debate to go away....as was Said, "its a shower...geez"....wear your shower shoes and your own soap shampoo and shower at Pilot and get out....or pay for it at TA/Petro...its really no big deal...

and yes, I do sometimes run into situations where i can't hit a FlyinJ/Pilot and use my own card to get gas, and when i was fueling at TA/Petro, while it really wasn't any bigger issue, there are less of them....And, lets be honest, the expedite fleet is just a bit smaller then the balance of the Load 1 fleet....
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
chefdennis said:
i use to use my own CC (strictly for gas) and the Ultra card at TA and showered there also...The fact that John offers the use of the Fleet One card, the discount for the diesels users, and all the other benefits that being signed on with Load 1 offers us is more then enough for this debate to go away....as was Said, "its a shower...geez"....wear your shower shoes and your own soap shampoo and shower at Pilot and get out....or pay for it at TA/Petro...its really no big deal...

and yes, I do sometimes run into situations where i can't hit a FlyinJ/Pilot and use my own card to get gas, and when i was fueling at TA/Petro, while it really wasn't any bigger issue, there are less of them....And, lets be honest, the expedite fleet is just a bit smaller then the balance of the Load 1 fleet....
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Hey I just wanted a Yes or No....if you can't answer, don't post......sound familiar?......LMAO
 
TheOGExpediterGuy

TheOGExpediterGuy

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Doesnt sound like thats what you wanted...Sounds like you wanted to stir controversy??? Some people gave an answer an you played devils advocate??? CONFUSED PILOT FLYING J IS JUST FINE dont fix something that isnt broke??? Right
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
tjpohio44 said:
Doesnt sound like thats what you wanted...Sounds like you wanted to stir controversy??? Some people gave an answer an you played devils advocate??? CONFUSED PILOT FLYING J IS JUST FINE dont fix something that isnt broke??? Right
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I was addressing Chef ONLY in my last post...inside joke.......BOY......LOL
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
scottm4211 said:
He's just promoting his radio show :p
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Ya see.... Dennis pretty well got told to shut up in another thread....he was told if you don't have an answer don't post....that is where I was going with that.....

Scott...great idea....the OVM Network....sounds too much like the OWN that Oprah has....
 
scottm4211

scottm4211

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
OntarioVanMan said:
Ya see.... Dennis pretty well got told to shut up in another thread....he was told if you don't have an answer don't post....that is where I was going with that.....

Scott...great idea....the OVM Network....sounds too much like the OWN that Oprah has....
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lol No I meant TJ, his sports radio show is pretty good! (He's no Dan Patrick, but he's Todd Patrick!)
 
Turtle

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
OntarioVanMan said:
Hey I just wanted a Yes or No....if you can't answer, don't post......sound familiar?......LMAO
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The problem really was the way the poll question is worded. You are asking if people will give up a quasi well-defined and known entity (.05 fuel discount) for an undefined entity ("a" TA program, whatever "a" means). That's like asking someone if they would be willing to give up their current girlfriend for a blond. Unless something is seriously wrong and highly objectionable with the current girlfriend, there's no way to answer that question without significantly more information about the blond. For example, if the blond came with a 20-50 cent carrier fuel discount, yeah, maybe.

I'd like to be able to use the FleetOne card at locations other than PFJ, like the TA/Petro, and even at other places where the FleetOne card is accepted, like a couple of the fuel stops here at home that accept FleetOne cards, but not the Load 1 FleetOne card, regardless of what program they may have, because, as others have stated, PFJs aren't always around when you need fuel. It's about more than "its a shower...geez", it's about how we run our trucks and business out here. The fact that in a van you need 3 fillups at a TA to get a shower should tell you that it's about more than "its a shower...geez". Showers are important, more important to some than others, but the showers aren't the primary factor for most. I've had as many as 18 showers on my PFJ card, which is a lot considering you can only use one within a 24 hour period. LOL

At my previous carrier using a Comdata card at a TA/Petro was a better deal than using the Comdata card anywhere else, even considering Comdata fees, but I also used it at PFJ when I needed fuel and there was no TA/Petro around. At Load 1 using the FleetOne card at PFJ is the better deal. By the same token, if the current program we have at PFJ is based on exclusivity, then losing that program for the convenience of additional locations would be objectionable.

So, it would be nice if we could use the FleetOne card at more locations, but not at the cost of losing the current program at PFJ. Despite only being able to use it at PFJ, it's a pretty good deal. I like it. A lot.
 
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