TA Menu and food choices

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
That's a key in the truck stop restaurant discussion. We just don't go in much anymore. When I first started trucking in the mid seventies truck stop restaurants were all hopping 24/7. Even just 10 years ago they stayed busy. But, most of us have well equipped bunks and save considerable money eating in our trucks. We have seen a big change in the hours they keep and how busy they are. If they can improve the menu, maybe it will help. But, I don't know, saving money is nice.

That is the bottom line really isn't it? NO matter what changes any TS makes even the TA...with all the comforts of our trucks WHY go in...it'll always be cheaper and healthier making our own....

TA's mission is..How to get us to eat in their restaurants more often....instead of the CrB or Logans or whatever...

And another thing....why such a HIGH mark-up on some of the food products in the store...a crappy banquet meal $1.98 when wallys is .88 or a buck....surely they have enough buying power now...
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
That is the bottom line really isn't it? NO matter what changes any TS makes even the TA...with all the comforts of our trucks WHY go in...it'll always be cheaper and healthier making our own....

TA's mission is..How to get us to eat in their restaurants more often....instead of the CrB or Logans or whatever...

And another thing....why such a HIGH mark-up on some of the food products in the store...a crappy banquet meal $1.98 when wallys is .88 or a buck....surely they have enough buying power now...

Mark up is a REAL funny thing. It is NOT as simple as I once thought. That was one of the very few things I learned while I was in retail. There is NO one set markup across a store. At Cabela's it took a gross margin of 45% to make a profit. Gander had less store and fancy stuff and we needed 35% there. You only make 5% on a gun so that has to be made up. It is the average of all products across the entire store.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
And another thing....why such a HIGH mark-up on some of the food products in the store...a crappy banquet meal $1.98 when wallys is .88 or a buck....surely they have enough buying power now...

Their buying power is nothing compared to Wally World.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Then maybe THEY should be buying at Wally World or Sams Club for .88 then mark them up to say 1.49 and give us a break...????
side bar trip_ anyone notice that wallyworld is setting up for bigrigs and putting portapottys out for them, cant remember where I saw it , but it was there.:D
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
side bar trip_ anyone notice that wallyworld is setting up for bigrigs and putting portapottys out for them, cant remember where I saw it , but it was there.:D

No haven't seen the porta potties yet...but seen signage for big trucks and lines actually painted....
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
side bar trip_ anyone notice that wallyworld is setting up for bigrigs and putting portapottys out for them, cant remember where I saw it , but it was there.:D

How did you segway from food choices to portapottys? :eek:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
These pierogis come frozen. the best in SE Mich.

Any comment Greg?


Lilas Pierogis Home

Actually I get them from a bar/restaurant in Hamtramck which I think are the best around and made fresh daily. Tastes just like my friend's ma's who was off the boat from Poland.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
We had our call today with Tom Straub, Corporate Chef and John Ponczoch, SVP Restaurant Operations, which went very well.

John and Tom are both very interested in hearing back from drivers on their menus and presentation at both the TA and the Petro.

We had a very candid discussion on our likes and dislikes of the menu selections.

One of the concerns we wanted addressed was nutritional content of the menu items and calories. The calorie and nutrition content was discussed at length. They have this information, but are waiting on the government to set the standards on how this will be presented to their customers. John said that if the government did not have this decision by the middle of 2011 they would go ahead and use their own format to get this information out to their patrons.

They discussed the struggle they are having selling their healthy choice menu items.

One of the menu items brought up was getting rid of the instant oatmeal and using steal cut oatmeal. They tried this once before and had more complaints then kudos.

One of the major items on their agenda is the vegetables and how they are cooked at this time and improving the quality.

They are also working on the idea for regional menu items. This is a little more of struggle as not all managers want to handle this additional burden. There have been many comments on this idea and they are continuing to work on this.

The soups are also made in house from stock not from a can. They are going to look at ways to market this to their customers.

We were on the call with the representatives from TA for over an hour and I believe both sides walked away feeling as if we learned something.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and ideas. I directed the chef to this thread and he picked up many thoughts.


 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Thanks for the update. As someone who is a trained chef and has managed everything from fast food to fine dining (4-star) restaurants, this is something that interests me greatly, as I already understand many of the issues they face.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Thanks Turtle the call was very interesting. TA/Petro are really struggling against so many drivers wanting a comfort meal dinner and not enough drivers wanting to eat healthy.

One of the thoughts I found interesting was the discussion between the difference of TA/Petro. Historically the TA attracts more of the company drivers while the Petro caters more to the independents or O/O.

Another interesting fact was that about 35% of the TA patrons order seconds and at the same time they are hearing complaints that the serving sizes are to big. We discussed that in the future they might consider two prices; one price for all you can eat and the other a small plate.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well they'll never satisfy every ones needs..just trying to find the middle road...While buffets satisfy the speed of service issue and the need to have more servers on the floor....buffets can also be a high maintenance factor is presented properly as in temp control, cross product contamination and general cleanliness...I would have a dedicated person assigned to maintain the buffet.
 
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