Since you are having such a hard time understanding what I wrote I will copy and paste it here for you to read, re-read and if you have to, have someone read it to you until you can comprehend what is written.
Originally Posted by
Slacktide
I have a question for you Zorry. Where are you getting your information about this recent failure? The reason I ask is I have personally talked to the drivers of that truck and what you claim is close, but not nearly accurate. Your statement would lead others on here to believe that there was a consistant temp variation through out the testing. That was not the case at all.
According to the drivers. it is neither an insulation NOR an installation issue. That truck, as was stated by the OP, is as FRESH off the lot as they come. As we ALL know, there are "bugs" to be worked out with any new equipment. They are wholly confident that it is merely a simple adjustment that the staff at TK in Ft Wayne will rectify upon their arrival. They were still extremely impressed with the overall performance of their T1000. When they started their test it was about 85 out at 14:30 and the unit pulled down to -20C in UNDER 3.5 hrs, to not only in range but to their set point. The following portion of the test they were in range from -20C in .5hr. (This is the part you were close on) Durring this portion of the test there were TWO readings on two different probes at two seperate times that fell slightly out of range. To clarrify it was one reading per probe at seperate times, the readings before and after were in range on each of the probes. The final phase of the testing had zero issues just like phase one.
I don't believe the drivers of the truck in question will mind me sharring this information on here as they are overall very happy with the performance of their new truck and would not want those reading this thread to be swayed by inaccurate / incomplete information. They have complete confidence in ALL of the vendors that had a part in building their latest truck.
That is all.... we now return to our regularly scheduled conjecture...
Maybe I can give some insight on this topic, FIRST HAND.
On our third attempt to pass the TVAL cert. we were accompanied by two other Stoops trucks.
My unit, trying for tval for a third time, with 35k milage with a T1000.
A twin to our unit, which I was told had just been picked up in Ft Wayne and driven to Green for testing.
And a 2006 DR. SST, with a Carrier 850.
We all ran the three part test, -20C, 5C and 22C set point tests together.
The last part, is a round trip with 8 hours of reefer time, at 5 C, using temp tales.
I was called and told I passed the 3 part test and could begin my 8 hour run.
I got to temp, waved goodbye and set off.
When I returned to Green to remove the temp tales, I was informed by the driver of the
2006, who had passed his 3 part test as well, the other T1000 failed the three part lot test.
Our problems have been in the 5 C setting (2nd phase) of the test. We "spiked" beyond
the acceptable perimeter. No clue as to what that exactly means, but that was the reason.
I have been told by TK it is a matter of tweaking the probes and software.
After finishing the three part lot test the first time, we went in service and accepted a load to
MA, and ran the probe test ( the format changed soon after ). We had a pre-dispatch to Portland and were happy to be running again.
We got a call going to MA that we had failed the three part test.
They wanted us to go back to TK and reschedule the TVAL test after TK found and fixed the problems.
I said, sure thing, as soon as we find our selves back in the FT Wayne area ( the owner insisted we take the truck there) I would make the calls and reschedule.
It took about 4 weeks to land in Chicago. Close enough.
We set the appointment with TK on July 2 at 8am. They tested all day. Needed the truck another day. We slept on the truck, my daughter and son-in-law drove out from Cleveland Oh to pick
up my wife, Linda, as we had family in from GA for the 4th. I figured once they finished later on the 3rd I could go to Stoops for repairs then drive the truck home.
They tested all morning on the 3rd, then informed me they would need the truck another day, the 5th of July.
So I scrambled found a rental car and drove home leaving TK ample time to "do their thing"
TK continued testing thru the weekend, 6 days, finished and took the truck to Stoops on Monday,to they could replace both front seals that had been leaking ( 27K miles).
Assured all was well we scheduled the 2nd TVAL test.
It was for a couple weeks out.
Again the truck had problems going out of range and failed the TVAL test.
I again had to go back to TK.
This time though we went to see Steve at TK in Richfield.
He took care of us in a very professional manner. Steve even scheduled the truck, for us, for the TVAL test on the following week.
So here we sit in MA, deja vu, waiting to hear if we passed the temp tale portion of the test.
A long, frustrating odyssey, that has cost this truck thousands in revenue.
I hope you appreciate, accurate and complete, information from the one involved.
In closing, a little story,
A family had to rush their child to the hospital.
Something was wrong, they didnt exactly know what.
Their Doctor said not to worry he was going to figure it out and
take care of whatever was wrong.
Trusting the Doctor they began their vigil.
After three sleepless nights they were approached by the Doctor.
The doctor said, " It was a three part process we went thru. The first part
was flawless, smooth as silk. However, we did have a couple of problems
in the 2nd phase. But, we finished in good form in the third part."
The anxious parents awaited more news on their child.
" I am sorry to say your child didnt make it".
Shocked the parents in disbelief and anger shouted out to their doctor.
The doctor replied, "Two out of three aint bad".
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Okay, I cant wait until someone explains this to you.
If you notice I am replying to your comments to zorry.
Wait, wait, lets back up even further, in the opening statement of this thread, oh by the way written by me, I mention that the driver of the new truck equipped with the unprepared T1000 told me he just drove in from Ft. Wayne, and you are 100% correct I didnt care to speak much to him after our initial few words. But, you already confirmed my statement as true, about being told he just drove in from Ft Wayne.
Thank you.
Now on to help you understand the rest of my post.
Seeing how I am the one who started this thread, ummmmmm lets see, ummmmm, oh yeah, about our FIRST HAND experience with a T1000, that had to be tested, re-worked by RK of Ft Wayne. then re-tested ( it FAILED the second time as TK of Ft Wayne let us down again) then, thank god, Steve at TK in Richfield got us where we needed to be at with this T1000.
Now, I dont know what you were reading but in a nut shell ( I am using the term nut deliberately ) this is a tale of SNAFU concerning the truck I am driving. Only mentioning on passing (actually failing) the T1000 truck and the 2006 850 truck as our neighbors in our trucks 2012 T1000 THIRD attempt to pass TVAL.
Which it did pass, finally.
Glad you like the truck. I have stated I too prefer the new Bolt truck vs the old SST.
But, my likes and dislike are personal to me and that is standard by which I will judge and make comparisons. After having driven the 2006 SST, since brand new, for over four years, I am so much more qualified to comment on the truck than one who goes out for a test test drive and eats a dinner prepared on the truck. WOW, lots of experience with that rig you got there.
Excuse while I try to find someone with first hand knowledge of working, living and driving 24/7 and not just someone sticking his nose into my first hand experiences.
Your judgement and comparison is your personal opinion.
If we differ, so what. Its what makes the world go round.
But, you should get some help with your comprehension skill.
Now, back to real world.
