Surcharge for Union Shops?

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Out of curiosity.. do any carriers charge more if their customer is a union shop? ie.. nope, can't unload you for an hour til my lunch is over. You know, that type of deal.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Out of curiosity.. do any carriers charge more if their customer is a union shop? ie.. nope, can't unload you for an hour til my lunch is over. You know, that type of deal.

You mean detention/wait time?

Remember DX pays TOTAL wait time on the load...that is if you wait 3/4 hour to load and 3/4 to unload..you will get paid 1/2 hr. D time/wait time.
 
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pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
No, I mean those who have their own authority and get their own loads.. do they charge extra for union shops just as a matter of policy (from experience)?
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
We don't usually know where we're picking up or dropping, until we've accepted the load. The only info given are cities. But usually, you can guess the company by their city.

Griffin, GA = CAT
Sharonville, OH = Ford
Georgetown, KY = Toyota

If you wanted to add a little to your rate for going to where you expect a union shop, nothing stopping you. But once you put in your bid, you can't just alter it without a good reason. And "It's a union shop" ain't one of them. ;)
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
When you're an independent.. and you're bidding on a load.. and your bid is accepted.. is there wording in your contract to allow for any weird stuff that happens.. ?? Like, anything that might happen.. such as the above.. or say the paperwork at the border wasn't done properly and there was a massive wait.. or any million other things.. or.. is your bid just your price, no matter WHAT happens?
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
That would usually come down to detention pay. You set up an amount (or they have a pre-determined rate) when you sign the initial contract with the carrier.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Hey pj, there is that employee attitude rearing it's head again. Waiting for someone to tell you what to do. In the example you gave, being THE Carrier, YOU write the contract. YOU don't allow yourself to be spoon fed. YOU cover your bases. YOU!!!!
 

CharlesD

Expert Expediter
If I think I'm headed to a union shop, I'll just bust my tail and try to get there early.
 

jasonsprouse

Expert Expediter
Boy this is a touchy subject for me. I (was) a third generation UAW worker. When I started in expedite I was laid off from a UAW plant.

I have to agree, a union plant is the WORST place to take freight into.

Since union jobs are "bid" by seniority, it seems the ones that don't want to work to begin with bid on the dock jobs :-( Most of the guys I worked with were not like that!!
 

buckeyewildman

Seasoned Expediter
We don't usually know where we're picking up or dropping, until we've accepted the load. The only info given are cities. But usually, you can guess the company by their city.

Griffin, GA = CAT
Sharonville, OH = Ford
Georgetown, KY = Toyota

If you wanted to add a little to your rate for going to where you expect a union shop, nothing stopping you. But once you put in your bid, you can't just alter it without a good reason. And "It's a union shop" ain't one of them. ;)

by the way Georgetown Ky. Toyota is not a union shop
 
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