Stupid or Dangerous?

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
And quit posting my name in bold letters too. You should know better.

Sorry, did not mean to do that. I was busy on a project that I have been working on for several years and got lost as to where I was. I MAY have FINALLY finished my project!! :cool::D;)
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Excuses, Excuses!! :p

Hey, you are the "Spy Guy"...Question

If the government has no knowledge of aliens, then why does Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for US citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrial or their vehicles.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Well this thread has been entertaining to say the least. From subs in the gulf and national security and military cuts to endless conversations of reading post and so on.

I'm waiting for the next kid to jump off his jet ski, climb a 12ft fence with a 100 million dollar security camera that does not work, cross 2 or more runways, walk thru a aircraft loading area, up the stairs, into a lobby and NO ONE SEES HIM. Now that said, no body was fired and no one got a whiping and life goes on. ( truth is, security is playing video games, watching porn and chasing a piece of u know what in lonely hallways, say it aint true)
That said, if a sub got into the gulf, you can see we are all preoccupied with life and really we see nothing at all. Lets go to Wally World and there is a special on pencils on isle 4. yeaaaaa.:rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Well this thread has been entertaining to say the least. From subs in the gulf and national security and military cuts to endless conversations of reading post and so on.

I'm waiting for the next kid to jump off his jet ski, climb a 12ft fence with a 100 million dollar security camera that does not work, cross 2 or more runways, walk thru a aircraft loading area, up the stairs, into a lobby and NO ONE SEES HIM. Now that said, no body was fired and no one got a whiping and life goes on. ( truth is, security is playing video games, watching porn and chasing a piece of u know what in lonely hallways, say it aint true)
That said, if a sub got into the gulf, you can see we are all preoccupied with life and really we see nothing at all. Lets go to Wally World and there is a special on pencils on isle 4. yeaaaaa.:rolleyes:

All part of ignoring reality. "Everything is beautiful, in it's own way" "Kumbia ...." The Soviets were/are REALLY good and the 20 million they killed and the millions more they are going to kill were bad.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Hey, you are the "Spy Guy"...Question

If the government has no knowledge of aliens, then why does Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for US citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrial or their vehicles.

False premise, actually. CFR Title 14, Section 1211, known as the "Extraterrestrial Exposure" law was removed from the CFR in 1991 after NASA having determined that it had "served its purpose" and was "no longer in keeping with current policy," and is no longer in force.

Title 14, Section 1211 did not make it "illegal" for "U.S. citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles". Rather, it simply required those who had such contact to submit to a quarantine at the request of the government. It was "illegal" to refuse the quarantine, but it wasn't "illegal" to have the contact in the first place. And by "extraterrestrial" it means unknown microbial life possibly picked up on the Moon to prevent a scenario as played out in the movie "Andromeda Strain".

The July 16, 1969 date is important because that's the day Apollo 11 launched. And the law was enacted specifically to the government could request those who have have been exposed to extraterrestrial life forms to be quarantined. This applied to NASA astronauts and anyone who came in contact with the astronauts or the unquarantined materials and equipment they brought back with them.

If a spaceship full of little green men landed in your back yard, you would not have been in violation of
Title 14, Section 1211 and subject to a fine or imprisonment merely for shaking hands with your visitors or taking a tour of their spacecraft. You would, however, have been subject to those penalties if you refused to comply with a subsequent government quarantine order. But even then, the law only applied to "NASA manned and unmanned space missions," so contact with extraterrestrials who were traveled through space on their own would not have fallen under the provisions of this law, anyway. Otherwise, the entire town of Roswell would be under quarantine, or arrest.

The law itself was kind of silly when implemented when you think about it. They quarantined the astronauts, but only did so AFTER the capsule splashed down in a microbial growth-medium heaven, commonly referred to as the Pacific Ocean. NASA continued the quarantine policy for two more missions, Apollo 12 and Apollo 14, then discontinued it.
 
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