jaminjim
Veteran Expediter
Nope just the majority of their drivers.oh, i was under the impression all carriers were non profit organizations
Structured Fuel Surcharge
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Slacktide
Seasoned Expediter
Thanks Moot.
My comment was more to point out that the reply given to Phil's question missed the mark. I think we all know what the intent of Phil's question was. IMO it was to broaden the discussion to include a discription/definition of a structured fuel surcharge for "noobs" that may be lurking or afraid to jump in and ask. I do not believe he asked due to a lack of knowledge on his part, making Dave's response foolish and condecending.
As this thread has continued a good bit of usefull information has been provided for those that may not have had a solid grasp on how FSC work.
My comment was more to point out that the reply given to Phil's question missed the mark. I think we all know what the intent of Phil's question was. IMO it was to broaden the discussion to include a discription/definition of a structured fuel surcharge for "noobs" that may be lurking or afraid to jump in and ask. I do not believe he asked due to a lack of knowledge on his part, making Dave's response foolish and condecending.
As this thread has continued a good bit of usefull information has been provided for those that may not have had a solid grasp on how FSC work.
Don't make something into something it is not. He did not indicate his question was for anyone else other than himself. My response was directly to his question. And no, no one knows what his "intent" was other than him. Just go by what is written and not try to "ASSUME" what you think someone is thinking or saying.
As a lurker/wanabe a big thank you for the info.
Bill
Bill
Carriers are meant to be profit makers and they should be, from the freight being transported, not from ripping off their contractors. If you believe it's fine for the carrier to double the price of the QC then you should also be fine with a dime or so fsc or maybe no fsc at all.
As far as fsc itself, I'm sure the $35 QC crowd thinks it's fine to base the fsc on $7 fuel even though it's currently $4.
As far as fsc itself, I'm sure the $35 QC crowd thinks it's fine to base the fsc on $7 fuel even though it's currently $4.
Yes. Shame on those nasty carriers who work to get us a great FSC when they can.
I thought it was 15 mpg for a Cv and .11 for a straight....hmmmm
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I don't know what mileage they use to figure it, and i really don't care one way or the other..but my numbers for so far this month and average of $.32 all miles and $.37 loaded miles.....just sayin....
My intent was a little bit of both. Yes, I wanted to broaden the discussion, but I also wanted to broaden my own knowledge. I have never heard the term "structured fuel surcharge" before. I wondered, is there also something called an unstructured fuel surcharge, and if so, how does it differ from a structured one? Thus my question.
While I know the basics of a fuel surcharge, I asked for an explaination of structured fuel surcharge because I had no idea what the term meant.
Do not give me more credit than I deserve. Sometimes I pretend to be ignorant and sometimes I really am.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Ditto
I don't get the issue, if one operates under the assumption that there is a cost affiliated with running the van, then it isn't a problem when they give you X for the FSC. I don't think that it is an issue with me any more, I am looking at the bottom line, not the breakout of each segment of the load offer.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I don't look at each part of the amount paid to the van..i had to figure those numbers because i didn't know what they were...all i care about is the total amount..how they get there really doesn't matter...and each run while it has to be profitable, I don't look at the weeks amount , its the net at the end of the month and more realistically the quarter that i concern myself with....but i also know that their are people out here that can not do that and need to know where they are at the end of each week or even in the middle of the week....
Like I explained earlier in this thread, its Panther Speak™
Next time you're not pretending to be ignorant go to Seville and sign a contract. I quit pretending a long time ago.
My formula is a little different. I use a base of $1.30 a gallon and add 1% for every 10 cent increase. $3.60 a gallon is 23% times my base rate comes out to 43 cents per mile. This applies to the miles I bill the shipper, I do a run and bill the shipper for 500 miles the fsc is $215.00 for that run.