Stats from the wall

louixo

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Sad but true stories and statistics from the casualties on the Vietnam Wall.
Our society teaches us that nothing important happened before yesterday.

"Carved on these walls is the story of America , of a continuing quest to preserve both
democracy and decency, and to protect a national treasure that we call the American
dream."

SOMETHING to think about - Most of the surviving Parents are now Deceased
There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010.

The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 36 years since the last casualties.

Beginning at the apex on panel 1E and going out to the end of the East wall, appearing to recede into the earth (numbered 70E - May 25, 1968), then resuming at the end of the West wall, as the wall emerges from the earth (numbered 70W - continuing May 25, 1968) and ending with a date in 1975. Thus the war's beginning and end meet. The war is complete, coming full circle, yet broken by the earth that bounds the angle's open side and contained within the earth itself.

The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth , Mass. listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956. His name is listed on the
Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965.

There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall.
39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger.
The largest age group, 8,283 were just 19 years old
33,103 were 18 years old.
12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old.
5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old.
One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock was 15 years old.
997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam .
1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam .
31 sets of brothers are on the Wall.
Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons.
54 soldiers on attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia .... wonder why so many
from one school?
8 Women are on the Wall. Nursing the wounded.
244 soldiers were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War—153 of them are on the Wall.
Beallsville , Ohio with a population of 475 lost 6 of her sons.
West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation. There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall.
The Marines of Morenci - They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball
teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and
cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the
Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest . And in the patriotic
camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home.

The Buddies of Midvale - LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah on Fifth, Sixth and
Seventh avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam … In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967,
all three would be killed. LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy’s assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7,
Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.

The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 deaths.
The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred.

For most Americans who read this they will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did
not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our fellow servicemen and women, friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters.

There are no noble wars, just noble warriors!

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layoutshooter

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The "Wall" is a stark reminder of the cost of fighting a worldwide evil know at that time as "communism". This "war" was just one theater of a greater war known as the Cold War. It is a REAL shame that we have "broken up" history and do not teach what really happened.

The first American killed in action in " 'Nam " was Army Capt. Albert Peter Dewey, killed on on Sept. 26, 1945. He was shot in the neck by a machine gun bullet. My dad was in "French Indo-China" at the end of WWII. He tells stories of the problems there. He wrote a letter to the girl who would someday become my mother stating that his sons would be fighting there one day. He was correct. (although none of his own sons did fight there) He often mentions having to fight both the Japanese AND Chicom troops in China during WWII.
 

Dakota

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My Uncle Lynn, who I am named after died in 1968. I never met him. He was Lynn Michael, I am Michael Lynn
I've never been to the real wall, but have visited the traveling wall in various cities.

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layoutshooter

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I have no relatives on the "Wall". I have many friends there and all are my "Brothers and Sisters" in arms.
 

BillChaffey

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"Chicoms" in the second World War. China was also invaded by Japan. There women were brought to Japan as Sex Slaves. From where is your information we fought China and where is it that the Chinese were communist in WW2.
I believe the original Flying Tigers were based in China.
 

layoutshooter

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"Chicoms" in the second World War. China was also invaded by Japan. There women were brought to Japan as Sex Slaves. From where is your information we fought China and where is it that the Chinese were communist in WW2.
I believe the original Flying Tigers were based in China.



Prior to the invasion of China by Japan, the Chinese Nationalists were led Chiang Kai-shek. He led the fight against Mau

When China was invaded he, at the insistence of his wife, took on the Japanese first, the greater threat. It was Lady Chang who was instrumental in getting the Flying Tigers into China.

Communist involvement in the region goes back as far as the mid 1800's.

"While the conflict between the West and the Communist Soviets, North Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese and their allies flared into full-fledged wars in Korea (1950-53) and Vietnam (1961-75), the much longer twilight struggle consumed Its first casualty, Army Air Force Capt. John Birch, an OSS operative, was killed by the Communist Chinese on Aug. 25, 1945 even before WWII ended. The civil war that raged in China would claim other American casualties, almost unnoticed at home except to the grieving loved ones they left behind. The Marines lost 12 killed in action (KIA) and 42 wounded in 26 separate engagements in North China by 1948. (See 'Walking a Tightrope in China’ VFW magazine, October 1991 and 'Singed by the Red Dragon', VFW magazine, April 1997)"

My dad tells stories about having to put US guards on Chicom guards when he was in China with the MARS taskforce. They did that to stop the Chicoms from murdering Japanese prisoners AND Chinese Nationalists. The Chicoms used to behead children who worked with the US forces during WWII. I still have the pictures my dad took of some young boys who "turned generators" for cigarettes when my dad was running his radio.
 

layoutshooter

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The Japanesse surrendered on the Battle ship Missouri on August 15, 1945.

Officially yes. There was still fighting in China, Burma, India and French Indo-China for several months after the surrender. My dad's unit was involved in several fire fights in what is known as VietNam today for almost 5 months after the surrender. They lost several men during that time. There were minor scrape with communist insurgents at that time too.
 
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