Sprinter

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Honda...the only real bad thing on your list was the Tranny...

I am guessing you need the spindle because the bearing scored it when it fell apart?? So the 2 are connected.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Three of the five were leaking, replaced all five.

No additives

Well, I have talked with a few folks who replaced theirs with less miles than I had. Strong smell of fuel from A/C.

On another note... finnaly got a load... headed to the windy city!!

Ugh...they cost over 500 a piece... did you keep the 2 good ones for spares?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
A little update:

I just did a little diagnostic after warming the Sprinter up. I used a thermometer with about a 7" probe that I could stick down in the coolant. With the coolant gauge in the vehicle showing around 200 to 215 (just guessing based on it's position, almost 1/2 across the white block to the left of the 180 mark) the thermometer read about 180. So it looks like the sending unit (which is in the thermostat housing up near the oil filter cap) is toast. Ordered a new one from Europarts San Diego. Cost $18.

On the coolant loss/Espar heater booster issue - talked to Ray at Espar of Michigan and told him what had happened. He suggested either coming in or pulling the unit and sending it in. Apparently he has a test bench where he can check them out. He thought it might only be a bad o-ring, although he did say that it could also be a cracked waterjacket.

If you are thinking about upgrading to Koni shocks check out Summit Racing - the best prices I've found so far - $175 ea. for the front struts and $130 ea. for the rear shocks. They don't stock them - but they do list them and can order them. BTW, they list the front struts for the Sprinter 3500 only - the 2500 uses the same part no.

Whats so good about Koni? I have 290k'snow and they are in good shape...will they do better for the added cost?
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Whats so good about Koni?
Check 'em out on the web:

Koni USA

Couple of things:

Adjustable Dampening.

Rebuildable.

Lifetime warranty.

Approximately 2x the dampening over a stock shock, at the "soft" setting.

I have 290k'snow and they are in good shape...
And how exactly are you judging that - the fluid ain't dribbling out ? :D

will they do better for the added cost?
OEM shocks on most vehicles tend to be ...... ahhhh .... junk .... usually good for 25K to 50K miles. They are built mostly with cost savings in mind - "What is the the cheapest thing we can get away with ?"

(Having said that tho', the shocks and struts on my wife's 2000 Passat have seemed to last a long time (8 years/170K miles) - but they are probably about due at this point ....)

Read the Yahoo Sprinter Van Group and read the reports of some that have put them on - better handling on a loaded vehicle might be a reason to have 'em ..... dunno. :cool:

RLENT, Warehouse Distributor for Monroe Shocks, 20+ years
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
OVM, at 290k I can guarantee you they aren't in good shape. The stock Sprinter shocks are designed for 50,000 mile lifetime. They haven't failed utterly (as in collapsed), but if you (when you) replace those shocks, your butt won't believe it's the same vehicle. Because of all the highway driving we do, it's realistic to expect 75,000 miles out of the stock shocks. Shocks is one of those things that start to go back the minute you put them on, and they go bad very, very gradually (usually), so you don't feel it. Most shocks (Monroe, the OEM's,) should be replaced about every 50,000 miles. I think Monroe recommends that, or 60,000. RLENT will know for sure.

There's a post by me here somewhere about the before and after with the Koni shocks and the heavy duty swaybar.

I replaced mine with Koni's because it's basically one time shot and over the life of the van they cost less, and perform better, than replacing the shocks with OEM or cheaper shocks more often.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
My ride is already somewhat stiff....so It would be hard to tel about strutsl....My front tire pressure is 65...
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Of course, the Koni's are adjustable, so you can have if soft or firm. Mine are set at 90%m I think, pretty firm, but steady.

When I replaced the tires a few months ago I moved from 55 psi front and 80 rear, to 80 all around.
 

dcalien

Seasoned Expediter
Of course, the Koni's are adjustable, so you can have if soft or firm. Mine are set at 90%m I think, pretty firm, but steady.

When I replaced the tires a few months ago I moved from 55 psi front and 80 rear, to 80 all around.

What kind of tires do you have? Can I run 80 in my Continentals? I have 70 all around right now. The tire says I can go up to 80. I would trade the ride for mileage anyday, but when I talked to three dealerships they all gave me different answers.

I don't trust too many people, but I trust you. :confused:
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
dave, there should be tire inflation levels on the sidewall of the tires. instead of calling a dealership call a tire dealer.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
My ride is already somewhat stiff....so It would be hard to tel about strutsl....
Yup - I think that to a great degree that is just the nature of the Sprinter's stock suspension - mostly the spring selection.

A suspension is generally composed of two parts - some sort of spring setup (leaf, coil, or torsion bar) which supports or holds the vehicle and payload up and provides some "give" so you don't feel all the bumps in the road as drastically as you would if there were no suspension at all, and a device to dampen the "springiness" that the springs provide - the hydraulic shock absorber or strut. The shock or strut provides compression and rebound damping, in order to smooth out the ride .... and to keep the spring from continuing to push you up and down ... and up and down .... and up and .....

If the shocks are played out, the ride may seem more "rough" - because they are not providing adequate dampening for the springs.

My front tire pressure is 65...
I'm running 55 in mine .... I have ran them higher at points in the past (70 or 80) I feel a noticable difference in ride between 55 and 80 .... my guess is the reason 55 is the stock pressure is partly ride, and partly ability to grip the road - but I'd guess mostly the former.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
What kind of tires do you have? Can I run 80 in my Continentals?


I have Michelins. You can run whatever tire pressure it says on the side of the tire. For the Sprinter Mercedes recommends 55 in the front and 80 in the rear. The 80 in the rear is the important one, because at anything less than 80 and the "E" load rating is reduced.

They recommend 55 on the front largely for a smoother ride. More tire pressure means a bumpier ride, but less tread wear, cooler tires, and better fuel mileage. It also means a slightly looser steering. In a shell of a Sprinter, not outfitted and mostly light, higher front tire pressure could become a factor, especially if you are loaded heavy in the rear at or behind the rear axle.

In my case with the added weight of the bunk, the Microfridge, the batteries, me, and other stuff, there's more than enough weight to make the steering very tight even with 80psi on the front tires.

At the manufacturer's Curb Weight, 55 on the front is probably what you should use. But as you start adding weight you can add pressure without losing any steering control. It'll be slightly more bumpy, but quite honestly I didn't find any difference at all between 55 and 80 on the front, either in bumpiness or in the ride. Don't know if it's due to the weight, or the Koni shocks, or what. Might just be that my butt's not as sensitive as RLENT's.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Turtle...something sticking in my brain...I think its a thought!!

You said you take a .05 mpg hit on your bug deflector?

Why do you need it on in the winter?
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
My ride is already somewhat stiff....
OVM,

I was doing some further reading on this on a Sprinter forum and I found out something interesting - the passenger version of the Sprinter uses a two leaf spring pack on the rear suspension - rather than the heavier single spring that the cargo version does.

From what I could tell the 2nd spring functions as an overload spring - it doesn't engage until the van is loaded to a certain point - which would provide a better ride when unloaded. My ride, at least in the rear of vehicle, seems fairly stiff as well .... and the front doesn't seem to have a lot of travel to it either.

Another thing I was found was about the front transverse leaf spring. Most Sprinters come with a composite (fiberglass) front leaf spring (part number 5139112AA) - these are known to break and/or collapse and loose their arc (I believe mine may have lost it's arc)

However, for certain fleet accounts (Fedex, UPS, etc.) and RV builders, D-C supplied a steel leaf spring from the factory (part number 5175102AA) - these are can be ordered from parts and used as a replacement for the composite spring.

This item shows available thru Berry Dodge:

Wholesale Sprinter Parts

in Corsicana, TX with a price of $367.97 (list price $432.91)

Upscale Auto (aka The Sprinter Store) also offers a supposedly extra heavy-duty replacement front spring for around $549. (... might pay to check and make sure this isn't the HD steel spring that D-C supplies)

..... just in case you are looking for something to spend those millions on ... :D
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Turtle...something sticking in my brain...I think its a thought!!

You said you take a .05 mpg hit on your bug deflector?

Why do you need it on in the winter?

Mainly, because I'm too lazy to take it off. :)

Actually, it's two reasons. One, there's the remote outside chance that it will deflect a rock (it's deflected at least two that I know of that left divots, but missed the windshield), and I don't want to risk stripping the screw holes taking it off and putting it back on.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Mainly, because I'm too lazy to take it off. :)

Actually, it's two reasons. One, there's the remote outside chance that it will deflect a rock (it's deflected at least two that I know of that left divots, but missed the windshield), and I don't want to risk stripping the screw holes taking it off and putting it back on.

Turtle ...now I can let that thought go and makeroom for more useful stuff...;)

Rlent...Thanks for the info....and BTW almost 3000 miles this week!!:D
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Sure - you betcha !


Heheheh .... you realize of course that I took this last week off .... however I should be back in service by Wednesday ..... so prepare .... :D

No wonder we got miles for smiles...you weren't out there.
 
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