Sprinter vs. Cargo Van

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
I would like to hear opinions on purchasing either a cv or sprinter. And why. I want a sprinter for comfort but at twice the price of cv not sure if the comfort is worth it.
 

Monty

Expert Expediter
Do a search on these forums.... and the biggest reason in today's world is many carriers and shippers ask for Sprinter type vehicles. Mostly for capacity.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I would like to hear opinions on purchasing either a cv or sprinter. And why. I want a sprinter for comfort but at twice the price of cv not sure if the comfort is worth it.

you'd best check the pricing again....you could have gotten a 2012 sprinter for 31,999...end of year clearance...there are deals around the country...I've read your posts..you couldn't handle a Sprinter....too green, too American....
 

ntimevan

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
you'd best check the pricing again....you could have gotten a 2012 sprinter for 31,999...end of year clearance...there are deals around the country...I've read your posts..you couldn't handle a Sprinter....too green, too American....

Those darn Sprinter sales reps just have to put in their 2 cents. ....:p

Sent from my SGH-T959 using EO Forums
 

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
you'd best check the pricing again....you could have gotten a 2012 sprinter for 31,999...end of year clearance...there are deals around the country...I've read your posts..you couldn't handle a Sprinter....too green, too American....

When I get home I'll look into pricing, thanks. As usual a smart a** comment has to come with it. Not sure how you see my opinion as being unAmerican, but it is what it is. I'm in Cartersville, GA at TA and I will post where I am each day. You obviously cannot let it go so when you get near me come see me or I will come to you and we can deal with it since it bothers you so much. If not let it go and shut it!
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
He didn't say your opinion was unAmerican. He said you were too green (in this business) and you are TOO American (the Sprinter is most definitely NOT American). You have to really and truly think like a European when it comes to a Sprinter, and that's on top of the special considerations that needs to be done with a high mileage per year vehicle. Many things that are done every 2 or 3 years with a normal vehicle are done far more often with an expediting vehicle. Those who are green don't have that mindset until they've had a couple of years in this business. It's better to cut your trial and error teeth with a cheaper cargo van than it is to make seriously high dollar mistakes with a Sprinter. Frankly, someone this green who already has the whole broker thing figured out, in light of being informed differently, and sticking with what they think is right, isn't someone who is likely to be able to adjust and do what it takes to maintain a high maintenance vehicle like a Sprinter. It's hard enough just learning this business without having to take on the added task of learning how to properly maintain a Sprinter. That's why most of us would not recommend a Sprinter to someone new to the business. There are plenty of expediters, many of them right here on EO who will tell you that a Sprinter is a piece of crap and they had nothing but problems with theirs. Well, they didn't have problems with theirs because a Sprinter is a piece of crap (although the jury is still out on the DPF Sprinters).
 

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
He didn't say your opinion was unAmerican. He said you were too green (in this business) and you are TOO American (the Sprinter is most definitely NOT American). You have to really and truly think like a European when it comes to a Sprinter, and that's on top of the special considerations that needs to be done with a high mileage per year vehicle. Many things that are done every 2 or 3 years with a normal vehicle are done far more often with an expediting vehicle. Those who are green don't have that mindset until they've had a couple of years in this business. It's better to cut your trial and error teeth with a cheaper cargo van than it is to make seriously high dollar mistakes with a Sprinter. Frankly, someone this green who already has the whole broker thing figured out, in light of being informed differently, and sticking with what they think is right, isn't someone who is likely to be able to adjust and do what it takes to maintain a high maintenance vehicle like a Sprinter. It's hard enough just learning this business without having to take on the added task of learning how to properly maintain a Sprinter. That's why most of us would not recommend a Sprinter to someone new to the business. There are plenty of expediters, many of them right here on EO who will tell you that a Sprinter is a piece of crap and they had nothing but problems with theirs. Well, they didn't have problems with theirs because a Sprinter is a piece of crap (although the jury is still out on the DPF Sprinters).
You believe you're opinion is correct and I believe mine to be so let's agree to disagree. As for maintaining a vehicle I'm pretty sure I can handle it. People like you that attempt to talk down to people they've never met are laughable. As I said, I'm making a decent living and I don't own my own van yet so I must be doing something right . It's amusing to me how you use these forums as a way to feel better about your miserable life. I bet you were lucky to get 1000 miles per week. You post all the time but never have anything of significance to say.You're a moderator on here so why don't you follow your own ns rules. If you don't have anything constructive to say don't say anything. I'm moving on and trying to use the site for what its intended for and I have to keep getting comments meant to prod at me from the other post. You're giving me infractions for doing what you do. I'm telling you right now that you better leave it be.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Sprinter maintenance is in a world of its own. It seems to involve, amongst other things, lighting candles on each side of the vehicle, walking backwards away from the van reverently and singing "How great thou art" while your wife plays softly on the organ. Give an American van an oil change and it's happy. The Sprinters are fuss-budgets.

Further: Apax, you've already had plenty to say about the rates. At the outfit I drive for, the rate per mile is the same whether you're driving a standard Chevy or Ford CV or a Sprinter. Right now, the rate I'm being paid is 1.07 per loaded mile. Gasoline is a bit more expensive (because you burn so much more of it) but maintenance of a Chevy is considerably cheaper-- and easier to get if you break down in the backwoods somewhere. I can replace the entire drivetrain-- engine, transmission and probably differential-- for less than the engine alone would cost in a Sprinter. Sprinters are for people with rich daddies, if what I've seen is any indication.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You believe you're opinion is correct and I believe mine to be so let's agree to disagree. As for maintaining a vehicle I'm pretty sure I can handle it. People like you that attempt to talk down to people they've never met are laughable. As I said, I'm making a decent living and I don't own my own van yet so I must be doing something right . It's amusing to me how you use these forums as a way to feel better about your miserable life. I bet you were lucky to get 1000 miles per week. You post all the time but never have anything of significance to say.You're a moderator on here so why don't you follow your own ns rules. If you don't have anything constructive to say don't say anything. I'm moving on and trying to use the site for what its intended for and I have to keep getting comments meant to prod at me from the other post. You're giving me infractions for doing what you do. I'm telling you right now that you better leave it be.

Hmmm.... Y'know, about half a mile from my house there's a hill that overlooks a railroad. It doesn't happen often, but when it does happen the hill makes an excellent place to view an in-progress train wreck. I think I'm standing on that hill right now.

Special note goes to Apax for somehow, some way managing to miss the entire point. Hmmm.
 
Last edited:

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
Sprinter maintenance is in a world of its own. It seems to involve, amongst other things, lighting candles on each side of the vehicle, walking backwards away from the van reverently and singing "How great thou art" while your wife plays softly on the organ. Give an American van an oil change and it's happy. The Sprinters are fuss-budgets.

Further: Apax, you've already had plenty to say about the rates. At the outfit I drive for, the rate per mile is the same whether you're driving a standard Chevy or Ford CV or a Sprinter. Right now, the rate I'm being paid is 1.07 per loaded mile. Gasoline is a bit more expensive (because you burn so much more of it) but maintenance of a Chevy is considerably cheaper-- and easier to get if you break down in the backwoods somewhere. I can replace the entire drivetrain-- engine, transmission and probably differential-- for less than the engine alone would cost in a Sprinter. Sprinters are for people with rich daddies, if what I've seen is any indication.
The biggest reason I've thought about sprinter is that companies are wanting them more so than cv. Other than that as you said, so much easier and less expensive to maintain and repair. Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Not sure ask canadian bacon.

Why not calm down a bit there, Cupcake. You seem to over react to people having a different opinion than you. Take what someone has to say and learn from it. It might be something that you completely disagree with but that doesn't make it less valid than your opinion and you might get a chance to open your mind.

Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums
 

geo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Navy
i have a sprinter and if you work it right you are able to carry twice what a chevy or ford is able to
carry 4 pallets 2500 lbs
if you back it right you will do all right
also do your maintance when it's time
 

mxzane933

Seasoned Expediter
I have a chevy express with a custom bulkhead and it gets the job done but after a week in such a small space it gets cramped and hard to keep clutter down in such a small space. I like the idea of standing up to put clothes on. But thats just me . It comes down to what your willing to spend for comfort and I feel I will profit more with the bigger vehicle. The sprinter is what I am getting and suites my needs better

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using EO Forums
 

ntimevan

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
when it comes to Pizza ....i sure do like Canadian Bacon..........yummy :D

Sent from my SGH-T959 using EO Forums
 

Everything Apax

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
Why not calm down a bit there, Cupcake. You seem to over react to people having a different opinion than you. Take what someone has to say and learn from it. It might be something that you completely disagree with but that doesn't make it less valid than your opinion and you might get a chance .
Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums

Cupcake!? lol You're the one not being open to others opinions. And I'm sure you do want me to be your "cupcake" seeing how you like that type of icing. Please quit sending me private messages, princess. I'm not gay and I tried to be polite about it but I see that doesn't work. If you like sword fighting that's cool just don't ask me to. Thank you and have a great day, princess!
 
Top