sprinter is frozen. i think

dean07

Seasoned Expediter
hi all, i have a 2006 sprinter, had all my lube , oil and filter done last week, today i went to start it up, it started up, i went in the house for about 40 secs , and when i came out, it wasnt running, i tried restarting but it wont start up, i am now hearing a winding sound comming from the engine, any ideas???
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Not much to go one here. But if it is turning over and not running it could be a fuel problem. I would replace the fuel filter(s) and plug in any block or other type heater to warm it up. Also charge the battery and after a few hours give it another try. Good luck!
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
How cold and how long sittiing? Mine wouldn't start BUT it sat for 2 days in about MINUS 30 and I had glow plug problem...I put an electric blanket and heating pad around injector system on the top of engine and a propane heater underneath and wrapped the nose in moving blankets for about 4-5 hours and it fired up.
Glowplugs have been replaced.
 

TJ959

Veteran Expediter
Mine wouldn't start this morning too. it only got down to 2 or 3 degrees last night and yesterday but the wind was really blowing. I ran the battery down trying to start it and then jumped it off my auxilliary battery bank. It started right up but reluctantly. Chug chug wheeze cough and then ran. I was showing an engine light and tried to take it in but the dealer was swamped and had Sprinters halfway down the driveway. The light went out halfway back home and it's running great now. I think I had some moisture in the fuel filter but the Howes took care of it.
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
They do have a blockheater for the Sprinter....but when the glow doesn't glow theres no go....*L*
 

dean07

Seasoned Expediter
it was the fuel pump dammit!!, wouldnt mind so much , if i were making $$, but times are tuff!!
 

dean07

Seasoned Expediter
i have 180k kilometers so that is about 120k in miles, dont run empty all that often, but there are times that i do!!
 

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
Buy good quality fuel and never let it sit overnight with less than quarter tank. I try to have mine running everyday and if it is really cold (-20 or more) I plug in an oil heater and block the wind from under the motor as best as possible. has helped a lot as this year it does seem to be having a harder time starting. Guess it's time for new battery and glow plugs. Well somethingto do before next winter hits. The ever on going expense train.....
Oh yeah use some howes or lucas stuff if buying fuel from different places. Seems to help a little with moisture and bad diesel.

Rob
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Just did the glow plugs....not that expensive....and changed the oil separator....yes we have one of those....05- 270,000 miles
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
This is from Turtle in a PM hope he doesn't mind...save him some typing...

I do know that, generally speaking, the oil separator is usually a small plastic (usually) box below, or by, or inline with the intake manifold. Meaning, just upstream and below the air intake. I need to pop the hood and scope mine out, I guess. It's part of the crankcase ventilation system.

As the name sort of implies, it grabs oil and blowby gases from the crankcase, internally separates the liquid oil from the gases, then routes the oil back to the crankcase while the "purified gases" get routed upstream to the intake to be burned. It's the same thing as a PCV Valve, except that a PCV valve just reroutes everything back into the engine to be burned, whereas the Oil Separator separates out the oil from the gasses, then sends the gasses back to be bunred and sends the oil back into the crankcase.

I know that if you don't change the oil and oil filter often enough, and the engine air filter, or if you use a non-approved engine oil, a clogged Oil Separator is almost certainly gonna be the result. But, because of how it works, I gotta figure that no matter how often you change the oil, it's eventually gonna get clogged and have to be replaced. But if the oil isn't changed often enough, and it gets thick and sludgy, that'll do it, for sure.

A clogged PCV Valve ends up making an oily mess, excess smoke, fouled spark plugs, valve cover gasket or main oil seal leakage, etc. This is my first diesel, so other than the obvious similarities, I'm simply not familiar enough with it to even fake being an authority on it. hehe Far as I know, diesels don't have spark plugs, and the like, so I'm not sure what all happens when an oil separator gets clogged. Also, a PCV Valve generally gets replaced every 40,000 miles or so, and it's cheap, but I think the Oil Separator for a Sprinter is about $225.

But, I don't see an Oil Separator listed at any of the places for routine maintenance items (like Europarts of San Deigo, for example), so I have to assume that it's not an often replaced part, as in a 40,000 mile PCV Valve.

Price on invoice is $328.48 for separator plus labour of course....
 
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