Sprinter glow plugs........Gotta share this.

seekerman

Expert Expediter
Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

2004 Sprinter 2500, 570,000 miles......after going for four years with only two functioning glow plugs, and suffering cold starting problems in cold weather the entire time, I decided to do something about it. The thing that prevented me from doing anything before this was the horror stories I've heard and read about in getting the plugs removed, and the problems with breaking off a plug. I listened when my mechanic told me a few weeks ago to spray WD-40 in the glow plug holes for a while before we tried to remove them; the idea being that the heat of the engine would draw the WD-40 down past the threads and help loosen the plugs. In four years I had never heard of this. So I did it about half a dozen times over a couple of weeks and again yesterday just before he attempted to remove them.

Bingo! The plugs came out as if they were put in yesterday. Even the plugs at the back of the engine, where it gets hotter, came out easily. He mentioned before I started with the WD-40 to use the new penetrating WD-40 formula. I believe the new stuff has the yellow cap. But it went by me, and I just used the standard WD-40. He also said when trying to remove glow plugs to never use anything bigger than a 1/4 inch ratchet, using only mild pressure. If the plug doesn't move, then leave it alone and continue with the WD-40 and try it again at some later point. Repeat this process until you have success. So if doing it yourself or letting a mechanic do it, make sure it's done this way. As I thanked him profusely, he actually thanked me for following his advice. Whatta guy.

So for those of you who have been putting this off, fear no more. This is apparently the solution. Onward an upward.
 
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Turtle

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Re: Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

The glow plugs breaking off are almost always the result of people trying to remove them from a cold engine. One key is to get the engine hot. Get it up to operating temperature, then turn it off and let it sit for just a couple of minutes to let it heat soak. Tap the glow plugs and then remove them. I had one go bad 3 years ago, and it came out without any problems. Then 2 years ago I had 2 more go bad, and I replaced those and the other two. No problems. Didn't have to use any penetrating oil or WD-40, just a hot engine.

If you do have one that snaps off, there's a tool you can rent that will get them out easily. Europarts has it.
 

seekerman

Expert Expediter
Re: Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

Turtle! Question: I'm having trouble understanding the relationship between the glow plugs and the module. Will the new style module remain functioning when a glow plug goes bad, or do you have to replace the module whenever you replace a glow plug(s)? Talk to us about glow plug modules.
 

Turtle

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Re: Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

The old style module had a resistor/fuse that would blow when one of the glow plugs went bad. You'd replace the bad glow plug, and the module, and then another glow plug would go, taking the replaced module along with it. That's why people traditionally replaced all of the glow plugs and the module together when one glow plug went bad. You could open up the blown module and do some soldering and replace the resistor, though.

The new module is solid state, so you can replace just a bad glow plug and reset the computer (which resets the module) and you're good to go. So if you have the new module and a glow plug goes bad, you just replace the one bad glow plug. Way cheaper than replacing all of the plugs and the module.
 

ysracer

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The old style module had a resistor/fuse that would blow when one of the glow plugs went bad.

Not necessarily. Only if it failed by becoming "shorted". If it failed "open", the module fuse would be unaffected.
 

greasytshirt

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I have a mini 3/8" drive impacting air ratchet that works well on these glow plugs. I just turn it down all the way and give it a few quick blasts. Hot engine, of course. The torque this thing makes is a fraction of what one could do by hand, but the vibration quickly loosens the plugs without fear of breaking them.
 

Turtle

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Not necessarily. Only if it failed by becoming "shorted". If it failed "open", the module fuse would be unaffected.
True. But shorted to ground is the most common way they fail, it's the most likely scenario. But, yes, if one (or more) fails shorted open, the module is left undamaged.
 

FlyingVan

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Re: Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

I replaced 3 glow plugs so far. I also modified the module and installed outside fuses, so I only have to replace a fuse when a glow plug shorts. Plus I know which glow plug went just by looking at the fuses. I did this a long time ago, before the solid state modules were available.

Back to the glow plugs. #1 came out very easy, #3 the same, but #2 did not want to come out. Heat soaking, wd40, pblaster, you name it, it did not want to come out. Eventually I got it out, but the last 3 threads on the glow plug were gone, and on the way up, the threads in the head got stripped. I had to drill, tap, and put an insert in. it has been working fine for the last 300k or so.

I talked with Doktor A about it and he said that some are just like that, and no matter what you do, it will strip the head. If that happens, dont let them talk you into removing the head for repair, or replacing the head. It can be fixed pretty easily with the head on the engine.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Re: Sprinter glow plugs........Removal Solution!

and when you live in Western SD those glow plugs best work..... --40 or better does effect some
 
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