Speaking of gun control

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
An unarmed utopia: Japanese gun control a model for America? - San Francisco Expatriate Travel | Examiner.com


Japan is a robber’s playground--if robbers actually existed. As a predominately cash-based society with an unparalleled consumerism that makes even Americans look like conservative spenders, Japanese malls, convenient stores and pretty much anywhere else financial transactions take place are packing tons of unstrapped cash.


For gun control lobbyists, Japan is a realized paradise. The law states that no one can bear firearms (or swords) under any circumstance. The only citizens allowed to possess a weapon at any time are police and the military along with those who have a hunting license weighted with a highly restrictive permit. With one of the world's lowest crime rates and the gun crime rate nearly nonexistent, anti-gun lobbies proclaim Japan as a model society for Americans to follow in their impressionable footsteps.


In an article written by researcher and director, Dave Kopel of the Second Amendment Project, he attests, “Tokyo is the world's safest major city and muggings only occur at the rate of 40 per year per one million inhabitants while New York City's rate is 11,000.” His article, Japan: Gun Control and People Control highlight government statistics showcasing, “Japan's homicide rate is two to three times lower than the U.S. rate. As for handgun murders, the U.S. rate is 200 times higher than Japan's.”


Perhaps history tells the tale of why Japanese society favors a gunless nation. In the late nineteenth century, Japan’s national police force was created and it’s first cohorts were former samurai who were unemployed due to the abolition of feudalism. Considering themselves noble warriors, samurai honored martial arts as a real means of battle and believed guns were for the cowardly. Nonetheless, the Japanese police acquired firearms only when U.S. General MacArthur commanded it in 1946. Even so, in Japanese society today, the government propagates gun control simply by a general lack of interest for carrying or glamorizing guns in their police force.


By way of the gun, Japan could be considered a parallel universe compared to America; however, gun control is not what keeps the crime rate low—it's social control. Japanese society is kept on a tight leash by the government and police force. Questioning the boundaries of personal freedoms and basic rights is rare, which is a key motivator Americans thrive on to better his/her self in society.


This inherent submissiveness in society comes easier to the Japanese than Americans because their country is far more ethnically and economically uniform as well as their voluntary willingness to comply with one of the most unyielding criminal justice system of any democratic nation.


What is even more interesting about the lack of citizen-held weaponry in Japan is how it affects the people's system of worry. For most humans, our basic motivators for survival are the same. We think primitively about the safety and health of ourselves and our families, and the threat of gun violence or robbery is definitely something the majority of Americans have at least an inkling of worry about. We can't leave our doors unlocked or walk onto a crowded bus without a slight suspicion that leads us to check our pockets to make sure nothing's been picked. In the idyllic, unarmed utopia of Japan, this type of petty theft threat hardly exists. Instead, Japanese have more than enough time to worry themselves over other daily occurrences that, to an American, may seem trivial in the grand scheme of survival.


Does America have something to learn from the staunch gun control exhibited in Japan? Perhaps. But, amending an American’s right to bear arms would be the same as telling the Japanese they had to own one. Sometimes no matter how much we have to learn from another culture, we (sadly) stick to our guns.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Interesting that the writer quickly touches on the real issue of why Japan is safer but then goes right back to blaming guns.

Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
An unarmed utopia? The author says it himself: "By way of the gun, Japan could be considered a parallel universe compared to America; however, gun control is not what keeps the crime rate low—it's social control. Japanese society is kept on a tight leash by the government and police force. Questioning the boundaries of personal freedoms and basic rights is rare, which is a key motivator Americans thrive on to better his/her self in society."

As much as I admire the Japanese, and believe there are several things we can emulate here in our country, their strict government is not one of them. They basically force, by way of penalties on the employers, for all Japanese citizens to be under a certain body-fat percentage.

Thanx, but I'll take crime along with liberty, than to have peace of mind while being a zombie.
 
Last edited:

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Interesting that the writer quickly touches on the real issue of why Japan is safer but then goes right back to blaming guns.

Yep... what I was getting at. With centuries of the citizenry being subservient to authority, without question, not to mention their strong work ethic, no wonder they're a just society. But I pity them if they end up with a truly tyrannical government.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
That and the U.S government had a lot of input into the Japanese constitution....they made sure they didn't make the same mistake..2nd amendment again.....as we might have to go back some day and again fight the Japanese...keep your enemies unarmed....
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
That and the U.S government had a lot of input into the Japanese constitution....they made sure they didn't make the same mistake..2nd amendment again.....as we might have to go back some day and again fight the Japanese...keep your enemies unarmed....

Be careful about getting to teary eyed over the rising sun county: December 7,1941, just saying................................
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Be careful about getting to teary eyed over the rising sun county: December 7,1941, just saying................................

History is just that....a trapped animal will do whatever it takes to gain freedom...

I think 2 nuclear bombs more then evened the score...
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
You ever see what they do with squid over there:eek:

They cut the fins off of sharks and throw them back in alive among other acts of animal torture, they are far from any sort of utopian society.

Sent from my ADR6400L using EO Forums
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
How come these pantywaists that write this drivel NEVER mention Switzerland which has a MUCH higher percentage of it's citizens armed and where a far greater number of people carry concealed? Where the crime rate is MUCH lower and the few mass murders that they do have take place in the few gun free zones that they have?

I bet they don't drug they boys either.

The lie fest is about to start. Obama cannot WAIT and is praying for more school shootings to make his case. This is a really EVIL bunch. Wait for the part of the new 'common sense' gun laws to include GREATLY expanding BATFE into a paramilitary group. They will need these new "Brown Shirts" to do the MANDATORY home inspections, enforce the gun registrations and, sooner or latter, confiscate ALL private firearms.

Also watch that there will be NO restrictions on police have the "evil semi-auto' rifles, or handgun or restrictions on THEIR magazine capacity. The definition of a police state. Enforced at gun point.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
That and the U.S government had a lot of input into the Japanese constitution....they made sure they didn't make the same mistake..2nd amendment again.....as we might have to go back some day and again fight the Japanese...keep your enemies unarmed....

I am unclear on what you mean, OVM. Are you saying our 2nd Admendment rights are a mistake? Am I reading you wrong?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I am unclear on what you mean, OVM. Are you saying our 2nd Admendment rights are a mistake? Am I reading you wrong?

If it were the government of today...wouldn't they say the 2nd is out of date and needs amendment?....

And IF the constitution was unshakable/perfect ...WHY did the creators make a way to change it IF needed?
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
If it were the government of today...wouldn't they say the 2nd is out of date and needs amendment?....

And IF the constitution was unshakable/perfect ...WHY did the creators make a way to change it IF needed?

I wouldn't trust the government we have today to get any important issue right. The right to bear arms is fundamental to freedom. The 2nd Amendment is no mistake.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
If it were the government of today...wouldn't they say the 2nd is out of date and needs amendment?....

And IF the constitution was unshakable/perfect ...WHY did the creators make a way to change it IF needed?

They knew that officials can be corrupted, and that they would bribe the voters with goodies, paid for by the taxpayer. They knew the natural evolution of government, where a republic would turn into a democracy, which in turn would turn into a dictatorship. They made it so the states could right the ship if the federal government hadn't usurped their power; or the citizens, if the government had.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
This government is not going to change the Constitution to remove the Second Amendment. It would take an amendment to do so. They are going to dictate what is going to happen. In other words, break the law, break their vow. Circumvent the Constitution. Only an enemy of the People would do that. Only an enemy of the Constitution would do that. Which is EXACTLY why the Second Amendment was written, to INSURE that the PEOPLE would remain as the ultimate power in the Nation. They would HAVE the means to dismantle a government out of control.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
No, the government would not remove the 2nd amendment ... The PEOPLE will .... If they have the mandate to do so....as per the Constitution
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
No, the government would not remove the 2nd amendment ... The PEOPLE will .... If they have the mandate to do so....as per the Constitution

How? Do you think that an amendment would ever pass? I don't. It is NOT the electorial college. It takes 3/4 of the states to pass it. There is NO amendment on the table AND Obama is GOING to outlaw, or try to, many things in defiance of the Constitution. HE HATES the freedom. HE believes that the GOVERNMENT grants or removes rights.

AND

When he does, from what I have been seeing around here, MANY people WILL fight for their rights, PERIOD.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
No, the government would not remove the 2nd amendment ... The PEOPLE will .... If they have the mandate to do so....as per the Constitution

Herein lies the genius of our Founders:

It takes enormous momentum to admend the US Constitution. In order to repeal the 2nd Admendment, it would take a two-thirds majority vote in the House and Senate, THEN forward the proposal to the 50 states where it would have to be ratified by 38 of 50 states. The beauty of this being that a humongous state like California has the same say as Idaho or South Dakota.

On a state by state basis, conservative-leaning states outnumber liberal states by a wide margin. The Founders didn't trust the House and Senate to have the last say on important matters.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
But The Criminal in Chief is NOT going to do this in a legal way. The Constitution will NOT be amended AND our Second Amendment rights WILL be infringed. THEN. all bets are off.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
layoutshooter;585473 Obama cannot WAIT and is praying for more school shootings to make his case. [COLOR=#000080 said:
I thought I'd read it all on 'the world according to LOS' and couldn't be shocked by any of your outrageous statements, but boy, was I wrong.
Evil is the utter garbage you spew on the subject of what Obama really thinks, wants, and now: prays for.
If you truly believe it, shame on you.

[/COLOR]
 
Top