Sorry disabled Vets, no guns for you!
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purgoose10
Veteran Expediter
"From my cold dead hands."
WELL, let them send THIS disabled vet that letter! 
It will not make ANY difference. I can ALWAYS get what I want, the same way Obama got his ILLEGAL DRUGS, on the black market.
I did not see if there was a type of disability attached to that letter. Maybe I missed it. PTSD stuff? Maybe?
Talk about sticking it the ear of those who served. That scum bag wimp in the White House should be the one banned from owning guns. HE is DANGEROUS!
It will not make ANY difference. I can ALWAYS get what I want, the same way Obama got his ILLEGAL DRUGS, on the black market. I did not see if there was a type of disability attached to that letter. Maybe I missed it. PTSD stuff? Maybe?
Talk about sticking it the ear of those who served. That scum bag wimp in the White House should be the one banned from owning guns. HE is DANGEROUS!
A link with more information, including the entire letter, all three pages.
Obama regime prohibits veterans with ?disabilities? from owning firearms and ammunition | Opinion - Conservative
Obama regime prohibits veterans with ?disabilities? from owning firearms and ammunition | Opinion - Conservative
There is no doubt that SOME vets with mental conditions should not have guns. Same goes for many other non-vets.
The problem is that the government is involved. They WILL, as time goes on, try to use 'mental illness' to, not only stop gun ownership, but to enforce their will. It has happened in the past in other places, it can happen here too.
The OTHER problem is just how many vets are in the shape they are in primarily due to the drugs they are being given by the military/VA?
The problem is that the government is involved. They WILL, as time goes on, try to use 'mental illness' to, not only stop gun ownership, but to enforce their will. It has happened in the past in other places, it can happen here too.
The OTHER problem is just how many vets are in the shape they are in primarily due to the drugs they are being given by the military/VA?
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
'Mental condition' is pretty broad. PTSD doesn't necessarily mean you're incapable of owning a weapon. There are different symptoms that have nothing to do with being a danger to yourself and others.
What is not being said here is what is the other side of the story? What exactly is being claimed that prevents these guys cannot own guns? Are they deep in the mental crap house? If so, then they need to have a JUDICIAL hearing, and not one by a friggen department, which is obviously biased.
It'll certainly make some think twice before filing for a mental disability if they don't actually have one.
All states, far as I know, restrict gun ownership to those with mental problems. We've seen people running out of unemployment benefits and then immediately filing for Social Security Disability due to a mental disability, and many states are looking at restricting gun ownership to those on SS Mental Disability.
This isn't a new thing at all, including the deal with the VA. It certainly didn't come out of the blue.
VA Watchdog - Guns & Ammo
All states, far as I know, restrict gun ownership to those with mental problems. We've seen people running out of unemployment benefits and then immediately filing for Social Security Disability due to a mental disability, and many states are looking at restricting gun ownership to those on SS Mental Disability.
This isn't a new thing at all, including the deal with the VA. It certainly didn't come out of the blue.
VA Watchdog - Guns & Ammo
Just as there is abuse of the system by some who make bogus claims there is going to be abuse by the government. They must ALWAYS be watched with a wary eye. More so now than ever.
They have a point with the mental part. Prime example is this Eddie Ray Routh character whose family had gotten him temporarily admitted into a mental institution, only to have him released after a few days. He promptly goes out and kills two vets who do volunteer work with people who have PTSD. This is just another testimony to the failure of our health care system to deal with the mentally ill, and an example of the ways the gun control fanatics will stop at nothing to advance their agenda. Most physical disabilities in no way disqualify people from safely using firearms. Mental problems are a different matter and should be evaluated by medical professionals. Keep in mind that there need to be laws that allow doctors and family to have people that are a danger to themselves and others involuntarily committed to an institution. Right now mental illness is like STDs - nobody wants to admit that they or their relatives have it or how dangerous it can be.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill
The restrictions vary. Some, like Oklahoma, are very broad... restricting transfer of a gun to someone "mentally or emotionally unbalanced". While Michigan requires more to restrict a person from carrying a pistol, yet says nothing about other weapons...
A person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
A person may qualify for a license if he or she:
- Has not been adjudged insane or legally incapacitated and is not under an order of involuntary commitment in an inpatient or outpatient setting due to mental illness
Strict standards need to be set. Even stricter safe guards are required. Government must NEVER be allowed to use mental illness as a weapon. It has happened before, in other countries, it CAN happen again and it CAN happen here. Our nation is not immune to the evils that have taken place in other countries. We must never let down our guard. Government should always be watched with a wary eye and brought back under the control of the People when it starts to get out of hand.
It's currently rather difficult to deny someone a gun permit based on mental defectiveness. Something like .03% of the applications are turned down because of mental illness. They more or less have to have been adjudicated as such, not merely identified as a potential problem. Pretty much every mass shooting has been carried out by someone with mental illness, but they could still legally get a gun. Clearly, it needs to be simpler and easier to prevent people with severe mental problems to get a gun. But there's the rub, as Layout notes. The government would necessarily be involved, and that can't be good. They'll either mess it up, like they do everything they touch, or they'll abuse it like crazy, eventually declaring that everyone, other than government agencies, of course, are too crazy to own a firearm.
More BS I read the whole article from OREGON where else. All false Propaganda.
Here is somthing for you. They can take away my Guns, it wont stop me in a fight. They can pepperspray containing 10% OC it dont effect me. They can Zap with their High Fluent Tasers It dont effect me.
Hereing the BS of the above of taking away ones gun rights to a Disabbled Vet ya that make me very very very mad.
Maybe instead of stirring the pot and getting everone riled up why cant the morons just work together and take care of business.
How many chances have these Idiots had to get things right how many chance have these morons had to stop with the kicking the can down the road so to speak. HMM
Worried about some dam gun controll crap when they ought to worrie about this country going to Hell in a Hand Basket.
Degrees you say, Hell I bet they all got theirs in (UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING) Becasuse they sure as Heck cant get anything right. Go ahead Lets throw up some more BS and just kick the stinking can down the road some more.
Idiots!!
Here is somthing for you. They can take away my Guns, it wont stop me in a fight. They can pepperspray containing 10% OC it dont effect me. They can Zap with their High Fluent Tasers It dont effect me.
Hereing the BS of the above of taking away ones gun rights to a Disabbled Vet ya that make me very very very mad.
Maybe instead of stirring the pot and getting everone riled up why cant the morons just work together and take care of business.
How many chances have these Idiots had to get things right how many chance have these morons had to stop with the kicking the can down the road so to speak. HMM
Worried about some dam gun controll crap when they ought to worrie about this country going to Hell in a Hand Basket.
Degrees you say, Hell I bet they all got theirs in (UNDERWATER BASKET WEAVING) Becasuse they sure as Heck cant get anything right. Go ahead Lets throw up some more BS and just kick the stinking can down the road some more.
Idiots!!
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