so you say you dont drink koolaid . are you sure
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Tennesseahawk
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The MSM are fans of the two party system. The MSM feeds the majority of Americans their news. Therefore, the majority of Americans (being lemmings) are fans of the two party system.
The MSM says third party candidates are a wasted vote (along with certain EO members), so most Americans won't bother with the TRUE change a third party will bring to the table. So yes, when people are frustrated at the system as it has become, they have only themselves to blame. It is THEIR baby.
The MSM says third party candidates are a wasted vote (along with certain EO members), so most Americans won't bother with the TRUE change a third party will bring to the table. So yes, when people are frustrated at the system as it has become, they have only themselves to blame. It is THEIR baby.
Camper
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The D n R,s can be voted out, maybe we the people are to blame.................u think, thats it? It aint rocket science, if we have incompetency in our government, WE the People voted for them.............of course this is just my HO>
The problem is most people talk a good game with respect to their supposed disdain of the two party system. Yet, when behind that curtain, they tend to fall back into their old ways. The tired old excuses are the same: "I'm voting for the lesser of two evils", "I'm throwing my vote away if I vote 3rd party". Little do they know, that it is that one dimensional view that has essentially handed both major parties a book full of blank checks to do as they please.
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clcooper
Expert Expediter
i know i will get slaped for this . but what about being told that bin laden was resopable for 9/11 and people believeing that they finaly killed bin laden .
i am not saying he did or didnt . as i have always said .
since 9/11 the USA has gone down the crapper fast.
#1.The Milgram Experiment (1961)
The Setup:
When the prosecution of the Nazis got underway at the Nuremberg Trials, many of the defendants' excuse seemed to revolve around the ideas of, "I'm not really a prick" and, "Hey man, I was just following orders." Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram wanted to test willingness of subjects to obey an authority figure. Maybe he could just, you know, ask people? Oh, hell no. That would not be nearly horrifying enough.
Instead he ran an experiment where the subject was told he was a "teacher" and that his job was to give a memory test to another subject, located in another room. The whole thing was fake and the other subject was an actor.
The subject was told that whenever the other guy gave an incorrect answer, he was to press a button that would give him an electric shock. A guy in a lab coat was there to make sure he did it (again no real shock was being delivered, but the subject of course did not know this).
The subject was told that the shocks started at 45 volts and would increase with every wrong answer. Each time they pushed the button, the actor on the other end would scream and beg for the subject to stop.
So, can you guess how this went?
The Result:
Many subjects began to feel uncomfortable after a certain point, and questioned continuing the experiment. However, each time the guy in the lab coat encouraged them to continue. Most of them did, upping the voltage, delivering shock after shock while the victim screamed. Many subjects would laugh nervously, because laughter is the best medicine when pumping electrical currents through another person's body.
Eventually the actor would start banging on the wall that separated him from the subject, pleading about his heart condition. After further shocks, all sounds from victim's room would cease, indicating he was dead or unconscious. If you had to guess, what percentage of the subjects kept delivering shocks after that point?
Five percent? Ten?
Between 61 and 66 percent of subjects would continue the experiment until it reached the maximum voltage of 450, continuing to deliver shocks after the victim had been zapped into unconsciousness or the afterlife. Repeated studies have shown the same result: Subjects will mindlessly deliver pain to an innocent stranger as long as a dude in a lab coat says it's OK.
Most subjects wouldn't begin to object until after 300-volt shocks. Zero of them asked to stop the experiment before that point (keep in mind 100 volts is enough to kill a man, in some cases).
What This Says About You:
You might like to think of yourself as a free-thinking marauder, but when it comes down to it, odds are you won't stick it to The Man because of the fear The Man will stick it right back up your ***. And this was just a guy in a lab coat--imagine if he'd had a uniform, or a badge.
Charles Sheridan and Richard King took this experiment one step further, but asked subjects to shock a puppy for every incorrect action it made. Unlike Milgram's experiment, this shock was real. Exactly 20 out of 26 subjects went to the highest voltage.
Almost 80 percent. Think about that when you're walking around the mall: Eight out of ten of those people you see would torture the **** out of a puppy if a dude in a lab coat asked them to.
Read more: 5 Psychological Experiments That Prove Humanity is Doomed | Cracked.com 5 Psychological Experiments That Prove Humanity is Doomed | Cracked.com
i am not saying he did or didnt . as i have always said .
since 9/11 the USA has gone down the crapper fast.
#1.The Milgram Experiment (1961)
The Setup:
When the prosecution of the Nazis got underway at the Nuremberg Trials, many of the defendants' excuse seemed to revolve around the ideas of, "I'm not really a prick" and, "Hey man, I was just following orders." Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram wanted to test willingness of subjects to obey an authority figure. Maybe he could just, you know, ask people? Oh, hell no. That would not be nearly horrifying enough.
Instead he ran an experiment where the subject was told he was a "teacher" and that his job was to give a memory test to another subject, located in another room. The whole thing was fake and the other subject was an actor.
The subject was told that whenever the other guy gave an incorrect answer, he was to press a button that would give him an electric shock. A guy in a lab coat was there to make sure he did it (again no real shock was being delivered, but the subject of course did not know this).
The subject was told that the shocks started at 45 volts and would increase with every wrong answer. Each time they pushed the button, the actor on the other end would scream and beg for the subject to stop.
So, can you guess how this went?
The Result:
Many subjects began to feel uncomfortable after a certain point, and questioned continuing the experiment. However, each time the guy in the lab coat encouraged them to continue. Most of them did, upping the voltage, delivering shock after shock while the victim screamed. Many subjects would laugh nervously, because laughter is the best medicine when pumping electrical currents through another person's body.
Eventually the actor would start banging on the wall that separated him from the subject, pleading about his heart condition. After further shocks, all sounds from victim's room would cease, indicating he was dead or unconscious. If you had to guess, what percentage of the subjects kept delivering shocks after that point?
Five percent? Ten?
Between 61 and 66 percent of subjects would continue the experiment until it reached the maximum voltage of 450, continuing to deliver shocks after the victim had been zapped into unconsciousness or the afterlife. Repeated studies have shown the same result: Subjects will mindlessly deliver pain to an innocent stranger as long as a dude in a lab coat says it's OK.
Most subjects wouldn't begin to object until after 300-volt shocks. Zero of them asked to stop the experiment before that point (keep in mind 100 volts is enough to kill a man, in some cases).
What This Says About You:
You might like to think of yourself as a free-thinking marauder, but when it comes down to it, odds are you won't stick it to The Man because of the fear The Man will stick it right back up your ***. And this was just a guy in a lab coat--imagine if he'd had a uniform, or a badge.
Charles Sheridan and Richard King took this experiment one step further, but asked subjects to shock a puppy for every incorrect action it made. Unlike Milgram's experiment, this shock was real. Exactly 20 out of 26 subjects went to the highest voltage.
Almost 80 percent. Think about that when you're walking around the mall: Eight out of ten of those people you see would torture the **** out of a puppy if a dude in a lab coat asked them to.
Read more: 5 Psychological Experiments That Prove Humanity is Doomed | Cracked.com 5 Psychological Experiments That Prove Humanity is Doomed | Cracked.com
clcooper
Expert Expediter
Learned Helplessness
1965
In 1965, psychologists Mark Seligman and Steve Maier conducted an experiment in which three groups of dogs were placed in harnesses. Dogs from group one were released after a certain amount of time, with no harm done. Dogs from group two were paired up and leashed together, and one from each pair was given electrical shocks that could be ended by pressing a lever. Dogs from group three were also paired up and leashed together, one receiving shocks, but the shocks didn’t end when the lever was pressed. Shocks came randomly and seemed inevitable, which caused “learned helplessness,” the dogs assuming that nothing could be done about the shocks. The dogs in group three ended up displaying symptoms of clinical depression.
Later, group three dogs were placed in a box with by themselves. They were again shocked, but they could easily end the shocks by jumping out of the box. These dogs simply “gave up,” again displaying learned helplessness. The image above is a healthy pet dog in a science lab, not an animal used in experimentation.
1965
In 1965, psychologists Mark Seligman and Steve Maier conducted an experiment in which three groups of dogs were placed in harnesses. Dogs from group one were released after a certain amount of time, with no harm done. Dogs from group two were paired up and leashed together, and one from each pair was given electrical shocks that could be ended by pressing a lever. Dogs from group three were also paired up and leashed together, one receiving shocks, but the shocks didn’t end when the lever was pressed. Shocks came randomly and seemed inevitable, which caused “learned helplessness,” the dogs assuming that nothing could be done about the shocks. The dogs in group three ended up displaying symptoms of clinical depression.
Later, group three dogs were placed in a box with by themselves. They were again shocked, but they could easily end the shocks by jumping out of the box. These dogs simply “gave up,” again displaying learned helplessness. The image above is a healthy pet dog in a science lab, not an animal used in experimentation.
Relating the unrelated seems to be be of your favorite pastimes.
clcooper
Expert Expediter
unable and unwilling to THINK looks like one of your favorite pastimes.
THINK how did people react when obama said that they got bin laden. THINK what has chaged since 9/11 and how many air planes were highjacked before 9/11. but now and only after 9/11 they cracked down on securty at airports .
keep drinking their koolaid . because their mind contral on you is working .
did you read more then the first sentance before you commented , before you made your judgement
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We should TRY to stay on topic, I understand how a thread that has been around for SO long morphs, be a good try would be helpful.
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clcooper
Expert Expediter
see if i can get this out better . and no it is not just 9/11 or killing bin laden . it is with everything going on .
it is they do know how people think and how to get people to think they want people to think .
just like hey reelcition is coming up. how can i get the people to vote for me . . i will just tell them this and that willl make them happy and they will think i am the better vote
i am not trying to have this go down hill .
it is said that there is to many dumb voters . with what i posted is why there is dumb voters .
they have been saying and doing things . the dumb voters have drank it and now are unable to think for themselfs .
Thanks for clearing it up.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I don't know about anyone else, but i really don't drink the "Pre-Sweetened" Koolaide...I still like to dump in my own sugar and alot of it....
Having someone who believes in death camps, death trains, and that BL is alive call me a kool-aide drinker makes it a compliment. Thank you
By the way I read the entire thing which as usual had nothing to do with what you attempted to relate it to.
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That is so funny, I think I am going to get a couple people at college to help me conduct the same experiment.
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
Can you clue us in on what the topic is?
and the topic is? I haven't a clue.....
looks like some kind of Original American drink that puts a spell on the ones that consume it....and is addictive...At least it made in the US of A.....LOL
looks like some kind of Original American drink that puts a spell on the ones that consume it....and is addictive...At least it made in the US of A.....LOL
greg334
Veteran Expediter
I think for some it is a revelation that has taken place, they just discovered things that many of us knew for a long time and has been studied since the late 1860's.
Much like the rise of Elmer Gantry types, they used the same concepts to drag people into their world that were written about in 1900 about the herd effect and so on.
Much like the rise of Elmer Gantry types, they used the same concepts to drag people into their world that were written about in 1900 about the herd effect and so on.
clcooper
Expert Expediter
death camps . so the ones in germany were what just retirement resorts .THINK
where did i ever say bin laden was alive . but i bet you believe obama killed him . because obama said that he did . and showed you the pictures .
you are the one that has said none of this can every happen today . because you are just like the people in these Experiments. you will believe every thing they tell you to believe .
them getting you to believe .what they want you to believe . is why is posted this . i got to ask why do you get lost so easy . and you can only think of one thing at a time .
what happened 10 ,5, 2, years ago , even 1 month ago you forget about . and thats what they want you to do
how things happened you forget about .and thats what they want you to do
you believe the earth is flat and when you get to the edge you will fall off . because you drink the koolaid . and will follow the crowd .
so keep drinking their koolaid . and as layoutshooter said NEVER RECOVER will be true . keep allowing them do the stuff they have been keep turn a blind eye . keep forgetting what they have done .
clcooper
Expert Expediter
it doesnt have to be college people . conduct the same experiment. with anybody from anywhere and you will get the same results .
because to many want to follow the crowd and want to take the easy way