Snyder signs law to limit cold medicine purchases in Michigan

[Tennesseahawk]

On topic: I rarely buy sinus medication, and it seems ludicrous to present ID for just the one package I want. Papaz please. I understand the production of meth requires large quantities of psuedoephedrine, so why target people who are buying a single box? Control. If the amateur chemists can only get one without ID, they will be too busy shopping to make the stuff! They have their gophers get it. Another poorly considered law, which is beginning to seem like the only kind our 'representatives' can manage.

As I said, it's all about control. They aren't as interested in stopping crime, as they are in controlling the masses.

I will say one thing, however. If Obama had an opportunity to install another lib in the SC before the Heller case, we would have been that much closer to being under control of the UN. Those toads want us to lose our gun rights so badly! They are powerless against us until the 2nd Amendment is erased from the books.

 

[Dakota]

I agree the jails are full of people who make bad choices but aren't really "criminals" They are criminals because the drugs are illegal. If someone wants to smoke pot, do meth, heroin, cocaine etc etc and they are at home and not driving or endangering someones life(other than there own) more power to them. Why is marijuana illegal but alcohol and cigarettes are legal? Think about it!!!
I am sure there are just as many deaths due to alcohol as some other drugs

 

[asjssl]

That one always puzzled me.....why marijuana was illegal and alcohol was.....ever heard of a.person beating his wife cause he was stoned.....ever heard of of someone OD / die cause of marijuana...

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[Dakota]

I've never tried any illegal drugs and I never will, but it kind of make you think. The jails are clogged with people who have been caught with these illegal drugs, can you imagine if alcohol was illegal? I am sure there are some here that remember the prohibition

 

[LisaLouHoo]

That one always puzzled me.....why marijuana was illegal and alcohol was.....ever heard of a.person beating his wife cause he was stoned.....ever heard of of someone OD / die cause of marijuana...

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Marijuana is labeled the "gateway drug", but frankly, I think it is alcohol...I have never known anyone who was strung that DID NOT start with alcohol when they were young. I have a dear friend who has been sober for 22 years, but in their active addiction days, no matter what drug they were abusing, alcohol was always in the picture, too. They started that road with alcohol as a teen.

The government, having learned a lesson with Prohibition plus the tax dollars they reap from alcohol, will not outlaw alcohol again.

I just don't understand why they are missing out on the opportunity to gain tax revenue on the legalization of marijuana.

Marijuana also was not responsible for the death of my brother. Alcohol was.

Ironic how the legal substance is so deadly...and THAT is ok????

"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Marijuana can be grown in your backyard. Therefore, it's impossible to tax. Alcohol is harder to make. But you notice moonshine is (was?) illegal, because it's impossible to tax.

A lot more people drink than smoke dope. They are voters. Alcohol is a powerful lobby. Not to mention most politicians drink. If they smoked too, taxes wouldn't be so high on smokes.

 

[Dakota]

Marijuana can be grown in your backyard. Therefore, it's impossible to tax. Alcohol is harder to make. But you notice moonshine is (was?) illegal, because it's impossible to tax.

A lot more people drink than smoke dope. They are voters. Alcohol is a powerful lobby. Not to mention most politicians drink. If they smoked too, taxes wouldn't be so high on smokes.

The recipe anyone?

 

[cheri1122]

Control? I think stupid law is more a result of inept lawmakers needing to do something to give the appearance of earning their pay. The subjects they address [like meth labs] are way too complex for simple solutions - but admitting that, or doing nothing, isn't going to get them reelected [which is their ONLY goal] so they do what 'looks good'.
Slap a bandaid on a sucking chest wound, then hold a press conference to announce their part in "saving the critically injured".

 

[cheri1122]

You sure like to get personal, don't you?
You wrote: "I don't care. I am having fun. I don't care if anyone else is. I have nothing better to do." Does it get any more personal than that?

What do I post, on thread or not, in this forum that does NOT annoy you?

Everything that you haven't repeated 27,612 times. Even the dullest knife in the drawer 'gets it' after the 20th repetition, and most here are smarter than that.
Everything that isn't an extended 'personal conversation'.
Everything that isn't regurgitationg what you've heard/read and accept without question, because it agrees with your worldview.
Example: the statement "Health care costs are high because of lawsuits." Horsehockey. [A low class word that describes a low class practice: whitewashing with the intention of covering the ugly truth.]
The insurance industry wants us to believe that lawsuits play a significant role in the cost of health care by playing a significant role in the cost of malpractice insurance, and they paid a lot to promote that view, but the facts don't support it. What the facts show: the insurance industry engaged in 'rate cutting wars' to gain larger 'market share' for years, then invested the extra income - but not wisely - their investments tanked. Then they began getting claims from the newer clients - the 'bottom of the barrel' medical practitioners who had jumped at the cheap rates. That was expected - but their investment losses left them in a tough spot: pay them all, and go bankrupt. Enter the wizards of smoke & mirrors [high priced PR, media specialists, lobbying firms] to create a believable explanation for their financial straits - it's those lawsuits that are the REAL problem! And every person [including legislators] who accepts the headlines regarding outrageous jury verdicts bought it, hook, line, & sinker.
But like those outrageous jury verdicts, [Stella vs McDonalds hot coffee is a favorite] the truth is something quite different.
Every statement I made [rate wars, marginal clients, poor investments, ordinary and expected claims, expenditures on high priced PR, media, and lobbying firms, actual jury awards paid] can be verified by facts in the public record. For most folks, [including legislators], that's too much work, though - it's so much easier to accept what they hear/read, especially when it agrees with their worldview.

I know, I have a good heart.

Yep. And people [including me, believe it or not] like you.
Besides that, refuting false assumptions [as I just did] is also a lot of work, and we seldom have [or bother to take] the time to do it. Which is why those assumptions gain the aura of truth, over time.
I hardly ever take the time to challenge untruths, but I do take the time to learn the truth - because it matters a lot, to me.

The thread morphed ages ago. So sorry I cannot be perfect, just human.

Somebody asked for perfect? Wasn't me, dude. I just asked you to refrain from hijacking threads for your own amusement, because it's not the civilized behavior we ought to try for - even on the Soapbox.

 

[greg334]

Cheri,
I think if you look at the two insurances (malpractice and health) as separate, the malpractice insurance rates never have gone down but always up.

An OB/GYN pays the top slot in malpractice because the number of complaints and claims made against them are the highest, with plastic surgeons coming in second.

I know of a few OB/GYNs who malpractice exceeds $2m a year for their practice and they have never been sued or even a complaint filed against them.

THIS drives up the cost both directly and indirectly.

This extends to medical equipment manufacturers who have to maintain a liability insurance so when that surgeon forgets to take that sponge out of your chest, the manufacturer who made the sponge can deal with the lawsuit - this has happened by the way.

Health Insurance is a different game altogether, many states don't allow insurance companies to be a for profit company and hence can't play the games a lot claim they are playing. BUT they also have to deal with state mandates and state minimum coverage requirements. Get rid of those two, let people select their level of coverage and those who want things done that are lifestyle driven to pay for it themselves and we will see a drop in the cost to insure a family.