Snyder signs law to limit cold medicine purchases in Michigan

Camper

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You know, the Republicans sure like to talk a good talk when it comes to personal freedoms but have no problem passing bogus laws like this cough medicine restriction. This is yet another example of how both major parties, the Returdplicans and the Dumbocrats are essentially part of the same pro establishment political class. The motices are the same- more government control and fewer personal freedoms.


http://www.freep.com/article/20110716/NEWS06/107160393/Snyder-signs-law-limit-cold-medicine-purchases-Michigan

Michigan is set to join a growing number of states in imposing tighter limits on the purchase of common cold and allergy medication and installing a statewide database to enforce them, as a means to combat methamphetamine production and use.

Under legislation signed Friday by Gov. Rick Snyder, purchasers of medications containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine will be required to produce an ID and have their names entered into a law enforcement database. The change, which will go into effect Jan. 1, is an effort to thwart meth lab operators from going store to store to stock up. A single buyer will be limited to 3.6 grams a day and 9 grams per month.

State Sen. John Proos, R-St. Joseph, one of the measure's chief sponsors, said similar enforcement tools in other states blocked thousands of illegal sales and helped limit "this very addictive and damaging drug."

The cost of installing the database will be borne by ephedrine suppliers, who were concerned government officials would require that the drug be available on a prescription-only basis if controls were not implemented.

Over-the-counter sales of ephedrine were halted several years ago, after the meth lab epidemic broke out. Currently, cold medicine buyers are required to give their names, but there is no effective way to control the use of fake IDs and block multiple purchases, said Sen. Mike Nofs, R-Battle Creek, another bill sponsor.
 
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layoutshooter

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Neither party believes in personal freedom. They are both out only for their own power over the people, their own enrichment and glory. Nothing more.
 

Camper

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Neither party believes in personal freedom. They are both out only for their own power over the people, their own enrichment and glory. Nothing more.

Yes, even the so-called libertarian Tea Partiers are nothing more than establishment Republicans incognito. The only plausible exception that I'm aware of is Ron Paul.
 

paullud

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I was listening to Michael Savage and he had a guest on that said Washington is the only town that the circus never leaves.

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layoutshooter

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Yes, even the so-called libertarian Tea Partiers are nothing more than establishment Republicans incognito. The only plausible exception that I'm aware of is Ron Paul.

Well, I don't see him as some one that can either win or do any good. I also don't believe that even if by some off chance that he could beat Obama he would not have enough of a change in the Congress, the real power, to do anything. It is going to take a leader, someone who inspires others to action. I don't see that in Paul or any other candidate, from any party, that is running today.
 

layoutshooter

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I thought you had some secret candidate layout :confused:

It is looking like that person may have decided not to run. It would be a shame if not. I see no other chance of regaining our freedoms and return the government to control of the people. Only an outsider, a non-politician, can begin this process. We will know in another week, two at the outside.

Not secret either, VERY well known.
 

chefdennis

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Just more bs from elected pos....it isn't like they don't have laws on the books to go after meth producers...use them,
instead of infringing on the law abiding....but then if you don't have anything to worry about, then you should be ok with this kind of stuff.....but if not, then look at the thread on "who votes"

http://www.expeditersonline.com/forum/soapbox/48928-welcome-dysfunctional-government.html...

and realize that "you deserve what they vote for...."
 
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layoutshooter

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So who is it?

I will say, one way or the other, Sometime around August 1. I ONLY do this to TRY to spur thinking about things in a different manner.

One of the MAIN reasons this country is in the mess it is in is due to the apparent inability of the American voter to "think outside the box" and vote OUT the stale, self serving career politicians and look to other sources of leadership.

It does amaze me just how few are even interested it expanding the field of those who would run.
 

layoutshooter

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Lol ok keep playing hide and seek. :p
Not sure "we're" overrun with problems up here though.

It seems you do not understand why I do this, not to hide the name but to spur the thought.

No problems? Your freedoms are just as restricted as ours, maybe more in some ways, more important in my way of thinking, than cough medicine. Not that it matters to me, I don't live there.

I only concern myself with the problems of Michigan and those of the United States. If you like your country's restrictions and controls over the people, more power to you.
 

xiggi

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Many states have the cold medicine law in one form or another. Indiana has had it for two or three years. Really the only thing it has done is keep a few home brewers from blowing themselves up and also has greatly increased the amount of meth being brought in from Mexico.
 

scottm4211

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I tend to survive just fine by not worrying about what was, but rather by moving forward. My country seems to have the same philosophy by and large, and we are doing quite well. I just think it's funny that first you, and then Leo (both mods), are doing these "I'm not gonna say" posts. I don't think you have a clue as to who this secret savior (sic) might be...
 

xiggi

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Yes, even the so-called libertarian Tea Partiers are nothing more than establishment Republicans incognito. The only plausible exception that I'm aware of is Ron Paul.

If you believe Ron Paul is the exception look a little deeper. Although not as much since he has had presidential aspirations he was very good at getting pork barrel spending for his area. He was even slick enough that once he knew there was enough votes to pass it he would vote no to make himself look good.

Said it before and will say it again, the best description I ever heard of RP was he is kind of like that crazy uncle in the basement you don't tell anyone about.
 

layoutshooter

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Many states have the cold medicine law in one form or another. Indiana has had it for two or three years. Really the only thing it has done is keep a few home brewers from blowing themselves up and also has greatly increased the amount of meth being brought in from Mexico.

None of these laws are going to have the effect that our "lawmakers" pretend they are after. They are NOT out to protect the people as they claim. They are only meant to control and restrict.

Too bad that these "meth cookers" hurt others when they blow themselves up. The loss of people that seek nothing more than to do harm is no loss.
 

Camper

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If you believe Ron Paul is the exception look a little deeper. Although not as much since he has had presidential aspirations he was very good at getting pork barrel spending for his area. He was even slick enough that once he knew there was enough votes to pass it he would vote no to make himself look good.

Said it before and will say it again, the best description I ever heard of RP was he is kind of like that crazy uncle in the basement you don't tell anyone about.

Being a politician, he has a few warts of his own, no doubt..However, what puts him in a class of his own is he, for better or worse believes in what he preaches. He's also one of a select few who is willing to take on the establishment(Federal Reserve, his own party, etc) regardless of how he sounds/looks in the eyes of the mainstream.



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