showers for gas burners

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
1. TA
2. ohio traval plazas toll road
3. ambest brazil, in I70 exit 23


come on drivers lets have some more. the nose you save may be your own.
A&A on US 35 near Jackson, OH once gave me a shower nearly for free. Condition was that I leave a tip for the cleaner. So for a $3 tip or whatever I left, I got the shower. Not quite free, but it was a tip.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
Im at the Hilltop travel center, near Ft. Smith, showers are 6 bucks, not bad, clean showers,nice folks too. I dont worry about the shower deal, its nice, but I will live.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
It is more than a few hundred vans.

If enough folks voice their concerns it may have an effect on they thinking.

Quite possibly, management (i.e. the bean counters) simply may not have consider the total number of gas powered vehicles that are required to operate with an MC number.

They should have a very good idea of what type of business it brings. That is one of the main reasons companies offer rewards cards. They can take the j card pull all cardholders that have purchased gas, look what they have spent on food etc. see what they have handed out in showers and begin crunching numbers from there. Big companies have a very good idea what each person that walks into their premises spends on a variety of things. We are just guessing they have numbers to look at.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
The way I look at it..they over charge on the fuel to begin with and then give us something FREE in return? That does not compute...besides I need the tax deductions they are worth more in my case...
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I heard, maybe this is wrong but Pilot claims that out of the amount of card holders that get qualified shower credits, only 15% are used.

I would rather say screw the shower - reduce the prices across the board for the supplies, drinks and snacks. Water at $4 a gallon is a bit much as is ice at $3 a bag.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Greg: both water & ice are free, if you bring your own container. Not a cooler of ice, but I regularly refill my gallon jugs with water, and get a large cup of ice all the time. :)
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Cheri,
Yes I do that too, but I have had to pay at some J's and Pilots for a jug of ice.

What I am getting at is the bag of ice and the gallon of spring water that is either in the coolers or the water is out on a display. The same goes for some of the snacks with their 130% markup.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
130%? More like 200%!
But it's like 7-11: you pay more for the 'convenience' [as if tractor trailers have much choice, eh?].
Knowing that, we plan accordingly: buy snacks at WalMart, the Dollar Store, etc. And we grab the free water & ice at the truckstops. :)
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
As for showers, when I drove a van & didn't get freebies, I sometimes used a gallon of water to wash my hair, [best done in summer;)] and baby wipes filled in for the rest of the 'bath'. It was actually not too bad, considering.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Part of the bankruptcy agreement required Flying J to sell off 10 locations to Love's.

Pilot has been guiding this whole scenario and as they knew of the sell off to Love's and that they were acquiring the remaining J's it would have been proactive on their part to inform drivers at the existing J's of the change at other locations over to Love's.

They post everything else on the doors to these locations.

I just think it to be very poorly handled.
Well, they couldn't do any informing before the merger date, due to both SEC rules and under the J's bankruptcy agreement. But the day the merger happened, a list of affected locations went on line. In addition to the Julesburg, CO; North Wells, NV; and Payson, UT Flying J locations that will be closing up permanently, the other 26 locations that have been sold to Love's can be found here: Love's is a Many Splendored Thing


As for the TA relaunching the Expedite King program, and making changes based on feedback from expediters, that's awesome. We won't know the details until the Expo, but for me and many others, the food purchase requirement was the big turn-off. Getting a free shower for buying 20 gallons of fuel, but only if you also purchased something out of the restaurant, doesn't feel like a loyalty program, it feels like they're extorting a restaurant purchase out of you to prove your loyalty to them. Fact is, I spend far more in food and snacks at the J solely because of their shower program.

The the revamped program indeed comes with no strings attached, then I'm far more likely to spend money in the convenience store, and eat at the TA restaurants, especially in light of their new 'Fit Friendly' menu items that debut this month.

This month, TravelCenters of America (TA) executive chef Thomas Straub introduces four "flavorful and fit-friendly" menu items to the TA full-service restaurants. Introduced under the banner of "Stay Fit with Flavor," these meals were created to offer less than 600 calories each. The items include Shrimp Stir Fry, Chicken Stir Fry, a Grilled Chicken Breast Dinner served with wild rice and a classic grilled chicken sandwich.

The introductory Stay Fit with Flavor menu items are available at the more than 100 TA restaurants, primarily operating under the Country Pride name for a limited time.

"If drivers like the new menu items, we will continue developing more fit-friendly options in the future," said Straub.
I encourage people, especially those who drive an actual CMV, to click the link and read the entire article, as the second half of that article has some nifty information about CSA 2010.

In other company news, TA has announced a comprehensive set of initiatives to help drivers adapt to the new, important safety and inspection standards, commonly referred to as "CSA 2010," at all TA Truck Service and Petro:Lube locations.

Every TA Truck Service and Petro:Lube location will conduct "training days" for drivers from mid-July through November for drivers. Every Thursday at 2:00 p.m. local time, informational videos will air detailing the new CSA 2010 standards. These 20-minute videos will be followed by opportunity for drivers to submit feedback.
Pretty kewl, if you ask me.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Does the csa mention anything about smelly drivers from lack of affordable showers? :eek:
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
for me and many others, the food purchase requirement was the big turn-off. Getting a free shower for buying 20 gallons of fuel, but only if you also purchased something out of the restaurant, doesn't feel like a loyalty program, it feels like they're extorting a restaurant purchase out of you to prove your loyalty to them. Fact is, I spend far more in food and snacks at the J solely because of their shower program.

Yeah, it sounds like they got the loyalty rewards thing backwards. It's supposed to mean that I get free stuff in return for giving them more of my business, not "here's a means for you to extort more business from me."
 

transporter

Expert Expediter
it sounds silly i know xiggi but the world we live in i can see regulations pass were you actually prove you shower regularly.
shower receits mandatory, national shower card for cdl holders.

mn was in process of putting drivers out of service because of full trash cans.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I wrote to Obama's Hours of Service Czar and asked for Vans to be included in the Commercial Vehicle Category so they can also push for a shower provision, making every truck stop provide free showers with a 15 gallon fill up with comdata cards.

She wrote back that she will include that in her next week's policy change czar order.

Hope that makes you all happy now, we got the administration listening to the needs of the vanners.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I wrote to Obama's Hours of Service Czar and asked for Vans to be included in the Commercial Vehicle Category so they can also push for a shower provision, making every truck stop provide free showers with a 15 gallon fill up with comdata cards.

She wrote back that she will include that in her next week's policy change czar order.

Hope that makes you all happy now, we got the administration listening to the needs of the vanners.

you are so full of crap your eyes are brown..*LOL*:p
 
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