Should a teacher be allowed to carry a gun?
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The second link wouldn't work for me but the youtube is excellent. That's how Hillary and the moron squad believe it will work.
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arkjarhead
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The only thing is this. It's easy to say you could/would pull the trigger before you get that situation. You never really know until you've been there. Plus just knowing you took another life weather justified or not will weigh heavy on your mind until you die. You will never forget.
Being forced to kill can (and often does) cause PTSD, which is why police officers are required to be debriefed, and talk with a psyche professional before returning to a non desk job. Some don't ever want to return, the trauma is so great.
But, the other side of the coin is this: survivors often feel personally responsible for having being unable to prevent death, and can become incapacitated by the guilt, as well.
Either way, a trumatic incident will cause emotional trauma. IMO, better to try to minimize the actual body count than the emotional distress. Not knowing who may be armed & dangerous is the first deterrent. When that fails to deter someone, being able (& willing) to end it quickly is the final deterrent - beyond that point, the shooter will kill no more innocent people.
But, the other side of the coin is this: survivors often feel personally responsible for having being unable to prevent death, and can become incapacitated by the guilt, as well.
Either way, a trumatic incident will cause emotional trauma. IMO, better to try to minimize the actual body count than the emotional distress. Not knowing who may be armed & dangerous is the first deterrent. When that fails to deter someone, being able (& willing) to end it quickly is the final deterrent - beyond that point, the shooter will kill no more innocent people.
unorthodoxneon
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The second one is a PDF file that you have to open up and view. So a pop up blocker might be trying to stop that.
Broompilot
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I ask this in return:
Example your in a Movie, or Church on Sunday AM, in walks a guy with three shot guns, four pistols, 20lbs of amunition. Yells I am gona kill all of ya's!!!!!!
I would love nothing more than to be carrying a conceled weapon, or better yet someone else who could use it and would use it.
Is that a direct enough answer?
Example your in a Movie, or Church on Sunday AM, in walks a guy with three shot guns, four pistols, 20lbs of amunition. Yells I am gona kill all of ya's!!!!!!
I would love nothing more than to be carrying a conceled weapon, or better yet someone else who could use it and would use it.
Is that a direct enough answer?
unorthodoxneon
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Like everyone says the bad guys will always have guns no matter what anti gun laws there is. Guns are very easy to acquire for them. Americans have to go through a background check and go through a course that teaches you how to use your gun and also teaches you the right and the wrong. In this case if a teacher is fearing that her husband is going to come to school and shoot the place up then she shouldnt goto school and take a leave to keep the kids out of harms way.
As for me. The girlfriend and I will be obtaining our CCWs sometime in the near future and also would like to attend some IDPA events.
As for me. The girlfriend and I will be obtaining our CCWs sometime in the near future and also would like to attend some IDPA events.
I realize I haven't been in the situation and hope I never am. It isn't that I fear it or have a problem with it, I just don't want anyone else to be in it. That said, I guess I'm partially defective because I've considered it many many times, especially when working in that industry. I'm sure the adrenalin hit will make me shaky afterward but psychologically it is no different to me than stepping on a roach. I would do it in an instant. The only potential problem I foresee is second guessing myself of how I might have ended it sooner and with even less casualties.
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I don't know about teachers carrying...But have no problem with the principal or vice principalbeing a carrier...with panic buttons in each classroom...My thinking that the gun would be away from the students in a safer enviroment.
unorthodoxneon
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If a princapal has a gun and knowingly has a gun they are and will be the first targets. So if they do carry it will have to be unknown to everyone. But who can keep their mouth shut about something like that or a law that states teachers/admin has to publicly state they can carry. That would be just as dumb as the news giving info on how to attack america but giving up our weakspots.
See??? No easy answer....
private security companys?
private security companys?
The answer is quite easy. You have to open it up to all faculty and staff that pass the proficiency requirement as well as all parents who pass. That creates too great a number of possible solutions for a shooter to take the risk. You also have to count on the good sense of those folks to never tell if they are carrying as well as the remainder to not say they aren't carrying. That means every adult may be carrying, still further increasing the risks to a shooter.
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