Semi hits van 2 dead.

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Talk about bringing the dead back...2010?

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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I've driven vans, straights and t/t, so spare me any experience comments with regard to this posting.
I'm not sure what experience in driving vans, straights and t/t has to do with you obviously having very little experience with reading and posting in Web forums. But OK, I'll spare you.
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I personally would be more concerned why a semi was on the road weaving and driving reckless enough to hit a van pulling over onto the shoulder.

You never pull onto the shoulder. People think the shoulder of the road is a darn picnic/rest area. I have seen Recreational Vehicles stopped on the side of the road with picnic chairs out lol. I try not to use the shoulder for anything other than emergencies.
 

butterfly610

Veteran Expediter
There are too many unknowns. People in cars and vans drive horrible, and people in big trucks tailgate and try to intimidate you off the road. I see both happen regularly so who knows what happened. Also, I don't know how much worth is I give witnesses saying a truck is weaving. If the wind is pushing you around, it can appear you are weaving. Then again, he could have been.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
What happens if a fully competent driver had been driving that van with 10 people in it.
A tire started going down or it stalled ?

A professional semi driver should have avoided that van. Get the big picture. Leave yourself an out.

Probably things done wrong by all parties, This could be a case where the semi takes more than 50% of the blame.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
just try to do 55 mph..the legal speed limit on 294 in Chicago....99% of them tractors will be on your tailbone......
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I came close to hitting a van in Vandalia Ohio on the Interstate.
10am Mon morning.
Middle lane,heavy traffic, probably doing speed limit.

I believe two occupants were fighting and one slammed the trans into park.

Dead stop in front off me. I had doubles. I slammed on the breaks,autoshift trans,and believe I closed my eyes,expecting debris.

When I stopped I had a foot to spare. I set the parks and yelled at the driver to move if he could before I got hit.

He put it in gear and was able to pull away. With traffic wizzing by I was able to get in my truck and pull away.

Great lesson on space management.

One of my Father's gas tankers left the highway at the 80/394 split and avoided a very old lady that stopped on the hwy to read the signs !
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think most of us have our stories/experiences...i think its about a 50/50 shot between big and small....no one has a lock on stupid....
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
My point is as a professional we are trained to expect the unexpected.

I may not make it home tonight. It'll take more than an overloaded van trying to pull onto the shoulder to take me out.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
My point is as a professional we are trained to expect the unexpected.

I may not make it home tonight. It'll take more than an overloaded van trying to pull onto the shoulder to take me out.

Absolutely...don't ya get tired of driving for everyone else out there? LOL
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Absolutely...don't ya get tired of driving for everyone else out there? LOL

No.
37 years out here.
Glad I try to out guess the other guy.
I want to retire in a few years. I hope to be healthy enough to maybe buy a new scooter and wear it out.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
MAAAA!!!! It's happened again!!!

A guy pretending to be a newbie resurrects a thread that's older than dust (no small feat for those of us with "whiskers") and then gives himself away even further by his comment to Turtle. Yep, it's Apax or I'm mistaken.


There's never an oak stake when you really need one. Come to think of it, I wonder if oak stakes work on necroposts.
 

beachbum

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You never pull onto the shoulder. People think the shoulder of the road is a darn picnic/rest area. I have seen Recreational Vehicles stopped on the side of the road with picnic chairs out lol. I try not to use the shoulder for anything other than emergencies.

When I see them on the side of the road, they are normally broke down and they bring the chairs out to be away from the vehicle just in case someone runs into the vehicle.
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
Several carriers will drop your lease and or fire you if you sleep on the on or off ramp or stopping on the shoulder. Landstar used to have that policy, don't know if they still do. Actually a good policy.
 

ExFedEx

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Owner/Operator
And an "Expeditor" would have not have tried to stuff 4 skids in a van that can only carry 2-3 skids.

I really really really wish I could have seen that van before the wreck. I want to see how they loaded 20 people and their luggage in a van designed for 15. Was the back-end loaded floor to ceilng? Were people sitting on luggage in the back seat? What kind of experience did the van driver have? So On.............

Blizzard said there were 2 48 inch skids, not four skids that were stuffed into his van. Where did you read that there were four skids in his van into his comment?
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I believe Brisco's point was that it is not only the general population that will over load a van (20 people) but expediters as well. If we could get President Obama to examine highway safety and ban the van, tragedies like this wouldn't happen.
 
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