There will be some on the left that wiil say Cruz isn't ellible, but at the same time clamor for illegal aliens' right to vote. Lol.
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There will be some on the left that wiil say Cruz isn't ellible, but at the same time clamor for illegal aliens' right to vote. Lol.
As opposed to the Democrats worthwhile candidates, Clinton, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Durbin etc. etc. etc.?
According to Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution, Cruz in not eligible to be POTUS or VP. He was born in Calgary, Canada and shouldn't even be in the discussion. That being said, the GOP has several Governors that are immensely more qualified for the office than anyone the Democrats have mentioned so far.
I think you mean, "According to my interpretation of Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution, Cruz in not eligible to be POTUS or VP."
Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution does not make a determination about Ted Cruz one way or the other as to whether he is a "natural born" citizen. Until the SCOTUS makes a definitive ruling on the matter, the usual and customary interpretation of "natural born" is likely to remain "citizenship conferred at birth." The legal consensus and the historical weight says someone is a "natural born" citizen if they have citizenship at birth and don’t have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen. Since his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth, and Ted Cruz was thus conferred US citizenship at birth, is a "natural born" US citizen regardless of where he was actually born. He's been a resident of the United States for more than 14 years, and he's at least 35 years old. That's it.
That's all we have to go on, unless or until the SCOTUS defines the term, as there is nothing in the Founding Fathers' writings or in British Common Law to help.
Yes, he is eligible.
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
I stand corrected - I hope. Although IMHO Cruz is not necessarily the best GOP candidate for POTUS at this point in his political career, he's an effective advocate for conservative causes and would make a very good VP candidate for someone like Scott Walker. Speaking hypothetically, it would be ironic if a ticket including Cruz would materialize and the Democrats started their own "birther" movement to challenge his citizenship. At least it would provide SCOTUS an opportunity to make a ruling.
Cruz: 'I should be only an American,' will renounce Canadian citizenship | Dallas Morning News
Obama was born in Hawaii, after it became a state, so it really doesn't matter whether one or both of his parents were US citizens.
McCain was the same way, born in Panama.
The first time it came up really was with Chester A. Arthur, who was born in Vermont but opponents started their own birther movement saying he was born in Ireland, like his father, or in Canada, just a stone's throw from his Vermont birthplace, where his mother met his father.
How about Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio? Neither one of their parents were US citizens when little Booby and little Marco were born. But both were born here in the US, and were conferred US citizenship at birth.
McCain was the same way, born in Panama.
The first time it came up really was with Chester A. Arthur, who was born in Vermont but opponents started their own birther movement saying he was born in Ireland, like his father, or in Canada, just a stone's throw from his Vermont birthplace, where his mother met his father.
How about Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio? Neither one of their parents were US citizens when little Booby and little Marco were born. But both were born here in the US, and were conferred US citizenship at birth.
witness23
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It's hilarious to see those members in here that were sooooo adamant about the President's eligibility give in so quickly and cordially when presented with the same evidence that was presented when Obama's citizenship was in question.
soapbox sociopaths: Obama isn't a citizen!!!!!!!
sane soapboxers: Obama is a citizen according to the Constitution. Nothing to see here, move along.
soapbox sociopaths: No he isn't, Obama is the Anti-Christ who has
Used 39 Different Social Security Numbers! and can't produce a birth certificate
Have fun going back in time with those links. lmfao!!
soapbox sociopaths: Obama isn't a citizen!!!!!!!
sane soapboxers: Obama is a citizen according to the Constitution. Nothing to see here, move along.
soapbox sociopaths: No he isn't, Obama is the Anti-Christ who has
Used 39 Different Social Security Numbers! and can't produce a birth certificate
Have fun going back in time with those links. lmfao!!
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witness23
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And the alternative is likely Hillary? Golly gee, decisions, decisions.
Like to see that defended. lol.
Dave, your above comment is the equivalent of, "I know you are but what am I. na-na-boo-boo"
Mr. Greasytshirt brought up the Republican candidates and asked if they were the only worthwhile candidates the right can dredge up? I simply brought to his attention the other "worthwhile" candidates the Republicans are parading about.
Feel free to start another thread about the jokers the Democrats will be parading about.
Not a single person in this thread has done that, sooooo I'm not sure why it's sooooo hilarious.
None of those links and references apply to anyone or participating in this thread.
No need to as Hillary at this point would be the presumed challenger to any of the above mentioned Republicans candidates.
witness23
Veteran Expediter
Don't be daft turtle, sure they have.
From Post #31
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witness23
Veteran Expediter
I'll be more specific then. This was just a quick search and if I have more time I'll find more.
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No, they haven't. What you categorize as "sooooo adamant about the President's eligibility" was and is nothing more than comments and questions within a discussion. There was no "birther" adamancy there. Adamant is refusing to be persuaded or to change one's mind. Even wild and wacky Leo left room for doubt, and Pilgrim posited all kinds of things that left plenty of room to be persuaded or change his mind. We have a few birthers on EO, but none that you've mentioned or that have participated in this thread. The only reason to characterize it as adamant is to set them up to deny it so that you could do precisely what you did, which is drag up previous posts to use against them in a personal attack, but none of this is about them, it's about the issues, yet you don't want to talk issues, you want confrontations.
And no one gave in so quickly and cordially when presented with the same evidence that was presented when Obama's citizenship was in question, because it's not the same evidence at all. No one is questioning where Cruz was born, nor is Cruz claiming to be born in the US.
Unless doing so furthers the discussion about viable candidates, I really wouldn't recommend it.