S.D wide base tire law

[moose]

Here we go again, a state violate truckers rights under the free commerce act.
federal law allow spread axles trailers equipped with SS tire to weigh in @ 40,000 pound.
however if your heavy load takes you into South Dakota, then you can only weigh 35,800.
or 17,900 per axle.
the S.D law allow for only up to 500p. per square inch.
the whole point of interstate weigh law is to allow free commerce between states.
yet for the rezone of skimming truckers pockets, S.D sets truckers to fail, as their law is far more restricted then the FMCSA law.
& the fines are steep.

for more info :
https://apps.sd.gov/applications/hy30commpermit/legalcal.asp
or call the Sisseton port of entry @ 605-698-3925.

 

[layoutshooter]

Truckers are a "cash cow" and a VERY easy target.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

maybe IF the Feds would respect state rights in ALL matters...

I'll forward this concern to my sister in law...

 

[layoutshooter]

The interstates should have a minimum national standard. They are a national vs. a state asset. The original purpose for the system was to insure easy, fast and safe movement of military supplies and equipment during time of war. It has morphed into what we have today but a minimum standard to achieve the initial purpose should be in place. State should be allowed to INCREASE weight limits but be required to meet the standards needed for tanks etc.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

The interstates should have a minimum national standard. They are a national vs. a state asset. The original purpose for the system was to insure easy, fast and safe movement of military supplies and equipment during time of war. It has morphed into what we have today but a minimum standard to achieve the initial purpose should be in place. State should be allowed to INCREASE weight limits but be required to meet the standards needed for tanks etc.

I don't think if there were a say crisis...ANY state would bar or hinder a military mission...

 

[layoutshooter]

I don't think if there were a say crisis...ANY state would bar or hinder a military mission...

I did not say that they would. All I said is that the interstates should have minimum weight and clearance standards and that those should be upheld. That's all. The states could, if they choose took exceed those minimum requirements.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I did not say that they would. All I said is that the interstates should have minimum weight and clearance standards and that those should be upheld. That's all. The states could, if they choose took exceed those minimum requirements.

The Feds have chosen this route to ignore and overpower states, good example Obamacare...
so some states might just feel time for some payback...unfortunately while these heavy weights fight it out...the small guy suffers...

 

[BobWolf]

I think N.Y.C. has the same type reg.
I can say that any federal regs can be upped by state or local regs.
For example, Lets say the S/S tire reg is 800 lbs per inch the state can say 500 lbs/inch the local city or town can say 400 or less based on road capicities. but they cant say 1,000 if the fed reg is 800.
Unfortunately as fer as the FMCSA and state DOT we are driving ATM machines.

Bob Wolf.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I think N.Y.C. has the same type reg.
I can say that any federal regs can be upped by state or local regs.
For example, Lets say the S/S tire reg is 800 lbs per inch the state can say 500 lbs/inch the local city or town can say 400 or less based on road capicities. but they cant say 1,000 if the fed reg is 800.
Unfortunately as fer as the FMCSA and state DOT we are driving ATM machines.

Bob Wolf.

what your saying is there is NO Federal minimum standard?...just a maximum standard...

 

[layoutshooter]

The Feds have chosen this route to ignore and overpower states, good example Obamacare...
so some states might just feel time for some payback...unfortunately while these heavy weights fight it out...the small guy suffers...

I know about Obama Care and it's affect. Sticking it to truckers will not change either problem. It's a very immature way to go at it. If that is what they are doing.

I don't really think so. I believe that SD is doing what every other state is doing. Looking for revenue off our backs, nothing more. State government is still government, crocked and corrupt.

 

[AMonger]

I think N.Y.C. has the same type reg.
I can say that any federal regs can be upped by state or local regs.
For example, Lets say the S/S tire reg is 800 lbs per inch the state can say 500 lbs/inch the local city or town can say 400 or less based on road capicities. but they cant say 1,000 if the fed reg is 800.
Unfortunately as fer as the FMCSA and state DOT we are driving ATM machines.

Bob Wolf.

Nope, other way around. The state can allow more, but not less. The STAA was enacted to see to that. Problem is, the STAA wasn't updated when super singles were put in service.

 

[Turtle]

Michigan certainly allows for more weight. The weight allowed for Appalachian coal trucks is silly, but the weight they need to actually be before the cops stop looking the other way is obscene. You don't want to be in front of a coal truck on a downhill run in Kentucky. You really don't.

 

[layoutshooter]

"You don't want to be in front of a coal truck on a downhill run in Kentucky. You really don't."


Yeah, they don't require brakes there, only a hole through the floorboard so the driver can drag his feet!

 

[Ragman]

Yeah, they don't require brakes there, only a hole through the floorboard so the driver can drag his feet!

 

[layoutshooter]

IF that was Kentucky they would have bare feet. Does look like they are on their way to a "hunker".

 

[moose]

I'll forward this concern to my sister in law...

Tank you very much.
i was told also that Michline tire took S.D DOT & Washingtong state DOT to court over this very same issue, but a Google search came back empty.
anyone know ?

 

[TeamCaffee]

Here we go again, a state violate truckers rights under the free commerce act.
federal law allow spread axles trailers equipped with SS tire to weigh in @ 40,000 pound.
however if your heavy load takes you into South Dakota, then you can only weigh 35,800.
or 17,900 per axle.
the S.D law allow for only up to 500p. per square inch.
the whole point of interstate weigh law is to allow free commerce between states.
yet for the rezone of skimming truckers pockets, S.D sets truckers to fail, as their law is far more restricted then the FMCSA law.
& the fines are steep.

for more info :
https://apps.sd.gov/applications/hy30commpermit/legalcal.asp
or call the Sisseton port of entry @ 605-698-3925.

Montana has this rule it is 500lbs per inch of tread width using the size of the tire not a measuring tape.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

The Feds have chosen this route to ignore and overpower states, good example Obamacare...
so some states might just feel time for some payback...unfortunately while these heavy weights fight it out...the small guy suffers...

Now you're making excuses for what amounts to as a money grab.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Now you're making excuses for what amounts to as a money grab.

admittedly maybe......and then the solution would be?...go around or have another axle to drop...

In the bigger picture why should any state abide by Federal laws when the Feds have no problem crossing the line as well.....

 

[Tennesseahawk]

admittedly maybe......and then the solution would be?...go around or have another axle to drop...

In the bigger picture why should any state abide by Federal laws when the Feds have no problem crossing the line as well.....

If they're going to break fed laws, they need to do it to the ones where the feds should have no authority... like drug laws, etc.