Russia warns against Iran attack

EnglishLady

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Russia: Israeli threat of strikes on Iran 'a mistake'


Military action against Iran would be a "very serious mistake fraught with unpredictable consequences", Russia's foreign minister has warned.

Sergei Lavrov said diplomacy, not missile strikes, was the only way to solve the Iranian nuclear problem.

His comments come after Israeli President Shimon Peres said an attack on Iran was becoming more likely.

The UN's atomic watchdog is expected to say this week that Iran is secretly developing a nuclear arms capability.

Diplomats say the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report, due for release on Tuesday or Wednesday, will produce compelling evidence that Iran will find hard to dispute.

Iran has always insisted that its nuclear programme is exclusively to generate power for civilian purposes.

Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi has said the alleged evidence is a fabrication and part of a multi-pronged US smear campaign against his country.

Time 'running out'

Mr Lavrov said it was "far from the first time" Israel had threatened strikes against Iran, when asked for his view on Mr Peres' recent comments.

"Our position on this issue is well-known: this would be a very serious mistake fraught with unpredictable consequences," he told reporters.

Mr Lavrov said "the only path for removing concerns is to create every possible condition" to resume the talks between Iran and six world powers - including Russia - which broke down in December last year.

Shimon Peres said on Sunday: "The possibility of a military attack against Iran is now closer to being applied than the application of a diplomatic option."

"I don't think that any decision has already been made, but there is an impression that Iran is getting closer to nuclear weapons," he told the Israel Hayom daily.

He made similar comments to Israeli television on Saturday, saying: "I estimate that intelligence services of all these countries are looking at the ticking clock, warning leaders that there was not much time left.

Diplomats, speaking anonymously, have been briefing journalists on the IAEA's next quarterly report on Iran.

The evidence is said to include intelligence that Iran made computer models of a nuclear warhead, as well as satellite images of what the IAEA believes is a large steel container used for high-explosives tests related to nuclear arms.

The IAEA has reported for some years that there are unresolved questions about its programme and has sought clarification of Iran's secretive nuclear activities.

Of this week's report, one Western diplomat told Reuters news agency: "There are bits of it which clearly can only be for clandestine nuclear purposes. It is a compelling case."

Hardline Iranian cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami warned the IAEA on Monday not to become "an instrument without will in the hands of the United States".
 

layoutshooter

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This is ONLY the beginnings of the "new" problems with Russia. US troops have increased their "training" with troops from Georgia and several other former Soviet States.

We have also had a few US soldiers killed in Saudi Arabia in the last few months.

There has been a build up of "fuel" taking place for a VERY long time. All that is needed now is the "spark".
 

moose

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You see, that's the problem with the leftish media. all of the above is half truth, and barely scratches the surface of what took place just this last few weeks, in regard to the military option against Iran.
the evidences of nuke weapons was presented by the CIA over a week ago, which resulted in the WH spokesman acknowledgment that the military strike option is still on the table.
then an only then, did the UN agency was forced to make it's own statements.as mention above.
at the same time, the royal Airforce, did an pretty large air strike exercise, over the northern see. this one was planned well in advanced, and was to stimulate a long distance strike, in coordinated with NATO, which have resulted in the above foreign minister statement .
convincingly blaming the Israeli president. a person holding an royal diplomacy statue, and clearly is NOT informed nor take parts in military/gov. discussions .
or maybe the BBS also forgotten to report the very str8 warning coming from Germany Foreign ministry, about that same military option.
either way, the WH just announced that there are no evidence of UFO or aliens, what so ever, so we good to go.
 

layoutshooter

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Gee Moose, you mean that the media is NOT always truthful? :rolleyes: They cause a LOT of problems with their lies, don't they? :mad:
 

layoutshooter

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Gee Moose, you mean that the media is NOT always truthful? :rolleyes: They cause a LOT of problems with their lies, don't they? :mad:
 

greg334

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Well not discounting the nuke issue, the problem is not with just russia but also China. They have a stake in all of this, they trade with Iran and Iran may or may not have overtones of war with the US in their presentation to the world and may speak of destroying Israel but their enemy is the Sauds which has been a target of theirs for a long time and we are protecting their interest by being there and acting as if Iran is a real threat to us.
 

greg334

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No they haven't. They started to gain a foot hold with Iran only in the last 24 years.

What worries me is the level of immaturity in this country over going to war with another country that is no real threat to us at this time. Let their own people sort it out, we have proven to the Iranians that we will fail them as we did with other counties so we don't need to get all upset with the posturing of the maybe soon former president.
 

layoutshooter

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The ONLY time that China was NOT involved was the times when they were "mad" at Russia. (like that cute little border problem in the fall of '72.) The rest of the time they have been part of what Russia does in one way or another. They are like two peas in a pod.
 

moose

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What worries me is the level of immaturity in this country over going to war with another country that is no real threat to us at this time. .

It's NOT going to be A WAR.
i did not read even one publication, saying ground operation .
and they are 'a threat to us at this time'.
once they can make a dirty bomb, it will be too late for us to fight back.
 

RLENT

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It's NOT going to be A WAR.
i did not read even one publication, saying ground operation .
and they are 'a threat to us at this time'.
once they can make a dirty bomb, it will be too late for us to fight back.
The highlighted statement above is so stupid it nearly defies imagination.

Exactly what do you think is required to make a "dirty bomb" ?

In a 2010 report the IAEA said that Iran already had produced 2,803kg of uranium enriched to the purity needed to run a nuclear power station.

What do you figure they lack - explosives ? :rolleyes:
 

greg334

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It's NOT going to be A WAR.
i did not read even one publication, saying ground operation .
and they are 'a threat to us at this time'.
once they can make a dirty bomb, it will be too late for us to fight back.

It won't matter, with even Libya we (the allies) had people on the ground. Iran will be worst than Iraq for us and it will fracture what little credibility we have with the rest of the Middle East.

Not only that, there is an issue of real terrorism being triggered by any action against them of which we won't be able to contend with by any real measures.

Regardless what our excuse is, our position should be simple and clear - we back Israel and that's it. No contingency in the Middle East, no playing the arrogant a** in the area and stop treating the middle east people as goat farmers with no intelligence to govern themselves.
 

skyraider

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Treaties and he said and she said and one morning we will wake up to Stukas so to speak. Remember Mr Chamberlain.............................This article is about the former British Prime Minister.



The Right Honourable
Neville Chamberlain

Arthur Neville Chamberlain FRS[1] (18 March 1869 – 9 November 1940) was a British Conservative politician who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from May 1937 to May 1940. Chamberlain is best known for his appeasement foreign policy, and in particular for his signing of the Munich Agreement in 1938, conceding the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia to Germany. When Adolf Hitler continued his aggression by invading Poland, Britain declared war on Germany on 3 September 1939, and Chamberlain led Britain through the first eight months of the Second World War.
 

RLENT

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Well good morning to you too.
Good morning :D

if you have nothing to say, why don't you just call me Stupid and call it a day.
Fact is I did have something to say (which you, apparently lacking any real ammo, aren't going to bother addressing) .... and I said it.

As OVM pointed I did not call you stupid - I merely pointed out how stupid your statement was, and is.

If you would prefer to not have that happen, then perhaps it might be a good idea not to say such things, which are stupid on their face, and easily shown to be so.
 

greg334

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Treaties and he said and she said and one morning we will wake up to Stukas so to speak. Remember Mr Chamberlain.............................This article is about the former British Prime Minister.

Well that's all good and well but it has little to do with the present situation and the fact that when people point to chamberlain as a failure, they either don't know the context of the times or the situation which this has taken place. The facts don't seem to be told, England, like the US wasn't ready for war and his actions, even though were praised by most as a positive thing was used politically to damage him and his party to force the King and government to bring in Churchill.

Trying to make Iran and for that matter Obama be like a peace in our times situation seems to show the lack of general knowledge of our history with the Persians/Iranians and how we caused our own problems by being the meddling force within the region to control them out of our own ego and arrogance.
 

skyraider

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Well that's all good and well but it has little to do with the present situation and the fact that when people point to chamberlain as a failure, they either don't know the context of the times or the situation which this has taken place. The facts don't seem to be told, England, like the US wasn't ready for war and his actions, even though were praised by most as a positive thing was used politically to damage him and his party to force the King and government to bring in Churchill.

Trying to make Iran and for that matter Obama be like a peace in our times situation seems to show the lack of general knowledge of our history with the Persians/Iranians and how we caused our own problems by being the meddling force within the region to control them out of our own ego and arrogance.
Maybe so, maybe so, seems like no can solve the world problems. Yes we were not ready for ww2, and peace in our times will never be IMHO. Ego and arrogance seems to run in a lot of Middle East regimes just as it does here.If anyone in EOL has the answers to world peace, the world is waiting on that person to speak. Basically we are all armchair historians copying and pasting and so on, at least I do some copy and paste. Let the good times roll.:D
 

Turtle

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While Iran may very well be a threat to Israel at this time, they are certainly not a threat to us at this time. Iran already has the capability to make a dirty bomb. Several of them. Every country with a nuclear power plant can make a dirty bomb. Mexico can. So can Canada. I suppose, using the logic of capability-equals-threat that we should consider Switzerland and Sweden, among many, as our mortal enemies, and launch a preemptive attack on these nations and simply label it "fighting back".
 
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