Romney says Americans pay more for health care but die sooner

[OntarioVanMan]

wonder what would happen if the government said...

ok insurance companies we are stepping back..go wild, no regs and you can compete across state lines....one rule..you must cover the high risk, and we will subsidize the balance of that policy based on income....would be very much cheaper all around?

 

[layoutshooter]

wonder what would happen if the government said...

ok insurance companies we are stepping back..go wild, no regs and you can compete across state lines....one rule..you must cover the high risk, and we will subsidize the balance of that policy based on income....would be very much cheaper all around?

It won't happen. NO GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING!!! I pay for my own. I see no reason to pay for others too!! Letting them sell across state lines will help bring down the costs. Then we have to look at the federal regs to see just how much they are helping to drive up the cost. Government is the cause of this problem, it most likely will never be the solution.
Get government out of our lives, let us handle our lives ourselves. They are far too corrupt and power hungry, they cannot be trusted.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It won't happen. NO GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING!!! I pay for my own. I see no reason to pay for others too!! Letting them sell across state lines will help bring down the costs. Then we have to look at the federal regs to see just how much they are helping to drive up the cost. Government is the cause of this problem, it most likely will never be the solution.
Get government out of our lives, let us handle our lives ourselves. They are far too corrupt and power hungry, they cannot be trusted.

so IF a WORKING couple making minimum wage trying to make a life came up a little short on health care payments you wouldn't help out a fellow citizen that was trying ?

 

[layoutshooter]

so IF a WORKING couple making minimum wage trying to make a life came up a little short on health care payments you wouldn't help out a fellow citizen that was trying ?

Government interference will NOT bring down costs. Just look at Medicare and you have your answer. Government interference is the reason so many are on minimum wages now. In fact, there should be NO minimum wage, government has no business setting wages. Period. Freedom is more important than health care. The more you tax the more you wipe out industry.

It is NOT my responsibility to cover others health care. It is their responsibility. Not the governments, not the company that they work for.

Confine federal spending to what is allowed under OUR Constitution. Then prices and taxes will fall. Keep on this track and our economy will collapse. Socialism breeds bums.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Joe joe joe....you are asking this country to step back 100 years...ain't going to happen...

This is a whole different world then the writers of the Constitution ever imagined....

Why is the US the only country that does business the ole way...it does not work....the system failed long ago.


This country will come to another civil war..it is only a metter of time...maybe 50 maybe 100 years down the road. The way things are so sr3wed up now...there is no other solution...

As you even said Joe...this country needs a cleansing from top to bottom....it won't happen thru the voting booth..

 

[layoutshooter]

Joe joe joe....you are asking this country to step back 100 years...ain't going to happen...

This is a whole different world then the writers of the Constitution ever imagined....

Why is the US the only country that does business the ole way...it does not work....the system failed long ago.


This country will come to another civil war..it is only a metter of time...maybe 50 maybe 100 years down the road. The way things are so sr3wed up now...there is no other solution...

As you even said Joe...this country needs a cleansing from top to bottom....it won't happen thru the voting booth..

No, it is NOT stepping back 100 years. It would be setting things back on track. That civil war might come way sooner if this government take over of our lives called health care reform is passed.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Well Joe you are out voted..even my conservative wife wants some kind of reform...
She happens to think the US is too great and wonderful country and rich in resources to let our ill and hurt go without some kind of care...cut aid to other countries keep the money here and help those Americans struggling...we give to all other countries in need, lets start at home and build a stronger more cohesive country from within...

All those that sent cash and goods to Haiti and Chili...let the money stay here to help each other out to rebuild this country.

 

[witness23]

so IF a WORKING couple making minimum wage trying to make a life came up a little short on health care payments you wouldn't help out a fellow citizen that was trying ?

You Socialist you!

 

[layoutshooter]

Well Joe you are out voted..even my conservative wife wants some kind of reform...
She happens to think the US is too great and wonderful country and rich in resources to let our ill and hurt go without some kind of care...cut aid to other countries keep the money here and help those Americans struggling...we give to all other countries in need, lets start at home and build a stronger more cohesive country from within...

All those that sent cash and goods to Haiti and Chili...let the money stay here to help each other out to rebuild this country.

I did NOT say that I did not want reform, not once. All I said is that I want the government out of it. 2700 pages is a take over, not reform. You have to start be figuring out why it is so high, they don't know that.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

gee I was waiting all this time for that short response...i was expecting some kind of Greg answer or turtle like...

 

[greg334]

Reform or change?

Not to be an a** but reform what?

This is a state issue, not a fed issue and the feds need to either do one simple thing or stay completely out of it.

If this is so important, then the people need to FORCE their state legislators to change their rules and maybe work with other states to get things fix, NOT THE FEDS.

But just makes these changes and it will help all of us.

The simplest thing to do is increase competition, even some insurance companies want to see that.

The second thing is to make mandates OPTIONAL for insurance companies. There is only a FEW things that should be mandated. A number of costly non-life threatening procedures COST a lot of money and don't need to be written in every policy for every subscriber.

The third thing is to think about eliminating Medicare or at least make it possible for people who can and do carry secondary insurance instead of being forced to take Medicare.

REMEMBER we don't have poor people, we have Rich Poor so equating our poor with the poor in Africa or Rio is ridiculous and people are too dumb to fall for it.

 

[witness23]

You have to start be figuring out why it is so high, they don't know that.

Layout, I think they have a pretty good idea why health care costs are so high. I've attached a video for those that want to know why costs are so high, enjoy.

YouTube - Why Is Healthcare So Expensive?

 

[layoutshooter]

That insurance company blurb got a lot of it right, but I was talking about the government has no idea what is going on. Most of what was addressed in that blurb will be continued or increased as the government takes over health care. Costs are NOT going to come down under this plan that they are forcing on us.