Robertson: GOP Base Too Extreme

witness23

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Whoa!! :eek:

What disturbs me most about this advice from Mr. Robertson is he's essentially telling the GOP candidates to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected. If your beliefs are so extreme that you have to hide them from sensible people, you might want to re-examine your beliefs.

Robertson: GOP Base Too Extreme - YouTube
 

dieseldiva

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Whoa!! :eek:

What disturbs me most about this advice from Mr. Robertson is he's essentially telling the GOP candidates to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected. If your beliefs are so extreme that you have to hide them from sensible people, you might want to re-examine your beliefs.

Robertson: GOP Base Too Extreme - YouTube

He must have advised Obama in 2008........just sayin'



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layoutshooter

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He must have advised Obama in 2008........just sayin'



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Yeah, like "hiding" his hatred of the Constitution, or his views on gun control, lying about keep your health insurance if you like what you have. Or about letting live birth babies just lay on a table and die? NO WAY, NO Dumb-O-Crat would EVER lie!!! :rolleyes:
 

RLENT

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Allow me to try and get your thread back on topic ....... :D

What disturbs me most about this advice from Mr. Robertson is he's essentially telling the GOP candidates to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected. If your beliefs are so extreme that you have to hide them from sensible people, you might want to re-examine your beliefs.
While it is disturbing, it isn't particularly surprising - Pat Robertson is, IMHO, a throughly corrupt individual.

This particularly activity (misleading folks about one's true intentions) is straight out of the neo-con playbook - they are, fundamentally, disreputable liars, one and all ....
 

Pilgrim

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Whoa!! :eek:

What disturbs me most about this advice from Mr. Robertson is he's essentially telling the GOP candidates to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected. If your beliefs are so extreme that you have to hide them from sensible people, you might want to re-examine your beliefs.

Robertson: GOP Base Too Extreme - YouTube

First of all, specifically what issues is he talking about? Maybe some of the footage preceding the start of this clip would be helpful. Secondly, does anyone really take this guy seriously as a political analyst?
 

Tennesseahawk

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Secondly, does anyone really take this guy seriously as a political analyst?

Not a political analyst, but a leader of the Christian power structure in the Republican party. The same people who have helped the MSM and the left label conservatives as nutjobs.

A LOT of people listen to Robertson, and people like him.
 

tbubster

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Whoa!! :eek:

What disturbs me most about this advice from Mr. Robertson is he's essentially telling the GOP candidates to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected. If your beliefs are so extreme that you have to hide them from sensible people, you might want to re-examine your beliefs.

Robertson: GOP Base Too Extreme - YouTube
not what he says at all.Though the video was edited to make it seem that way

First of all, specifically what issues is he talking about? Maybe some of the footage preceding the start of this clip would be helpful. Secondly, does anyone really take this guy seriously as a political analyst?

The starting story of his show that day was why he said what he said.He was not in anyway calling them to extreme in their belifes.What he was saying and if you watch the video you will see.Is that they need to stop attacking each other with such extreme flare.You see what they were talking about and you hear everything robertson says in this link as this one is not missing much of what he says.It really does make sence what he says


Does Pat Robertson Think the 2012 GOP Candidates’ Views Are Too Extreme? | TheBlaze.com
:D
 

Pilgrim

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OK - that's more like it. That video clip seemed like something was left out, and he's right: these candidates need to remember Reagan's 11th Commandment, and about 1/2 of them seem to.
 

witness23

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First of all, specifically what issues is he talking about??

You don't have to be a political analyst to figure that one out.

Maybe some of the footage preceding the start of this clip would be helpful.

Fair enough, I will look for a longer version of this clip and post it as soon as I can.

Secondly, does anyone really take this guy seriously as a political analyst?

I don't know if you take his political analyst seriously or not but there are a lot of citizens out there that would take him seriously. He did throw his hat in the arena for the 1988 presidential race.

link: Pat Robertson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Excerpts:

In September 1986, Robertson announced his intention to seek the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Robertson said he would pursue the nomination only if three million people signed up to volunteer for his campaign by September 1987.

Robertson ran on a standard conservative platform. Among his policies, he wanted to ban pornography, reform the education system, and eliminate departments such as the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. He also supported a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget.

With Mr. Robertson's flirtation with the presidency and his network which is a direct line to the Republican base, HE is the Republican base, I think he has his finger firmly on the very pulse of the GOP and if he thinks they are too extreme to get elected that's saying a lot.
 

dieseldiva

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With Mr. Robertson's flirtation with the presidency and his network which is a direct line to the Republican base, HE is the Republican base, I think he has his finger firmly on the very pulse of the GOP and if he thinks they are too extreme to get elected that's saying a lot.

His bid for the presidency was over 20 years ago for heaven's sake, you may believe he was in touch with the republican base way back then but I don't believe he has much power now. Those of us that frequent right wing news just don't hear his name very often, if at all, until something like this comes up.
 

Pilgrim

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His bid for the presidency was over 20 years ago for heaven's sake, you may believe he was in touch with the republican base way back then but I don't believe he has much power now. Those of us that frequent right wing news just don't hear his name very often, if at all, until something like this comes up.
That's the point I was trying to make. He may still have an audience with some of the older evangelicals, but aside from them he just doesn't have much of a presence with today's conservative base. Besides, as Tbub pointed out this edited clip misrepresents the message Robertson was actually trying to get across.
 

layoutshooter

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Gee, ONE person represents the ENTIRE GOP base? Strange concept. Kinda like Bill Ayers representing the ENTIRE Democrat base.
 

witness23

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His comments came on the heels of the GOP candidates calling out Cain and his views on abortion, which are, "I am pro-life period" but, "It's the woman's choice, and the families choice to have an abortion". huh?

Again, going back to my point, Robertson is basically saying, "shhhh, quiet down, we got this, but if you keep outing eachother's extreme, incoherent views we could lose the general electorate because they think we're all a bunch of "whackadoodles".

Why do you think Cain's views on abortion are incoherent? I'll tell you why. Like Robertson said,
"You‘ll appeal to the narrow base and they’ll applaud the daylights out of what you‘re saying and then you hit the general election and they say ’no way’ and then the Democrat — whoever it is — is going to just play these statements to the hills.”​

He's trying to speak to the base(Pro-Life) then trying to look appealing to the moderates or independents(Pro-Choice) and his message becomes a bunch of "gobblygook". Basically Robertson is saying, stop being so specific, you're giving away how incredibly insane we are.
 

jaminjim

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What is so hard to understand? It is possible to be Pro life, while at the same time think that it is not the governments business (or anyone else's).
 

tbubster

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His comments came on the heels of the GOP candidates calling out Cain and his views on abortion, which are, "I am pro-life period" but, "It's the woman's choice, and the families choice to have an abortion". huh?

Again, going back to my point, Robertson is basically saying, "shhhh, quiet down, we got this, but if you keep outing eachother's extreme, incoherent views we could lose the general electorate because they think we're all a bunch of "whackadoodles".

Why do you think Cain's views on abortion are incoherent? I'll tell you why. Like Robertson said,
"You‘ll appeal to the narrow base and they’ll applaud the daylights out of what you‘re saying and then you hit the general election and they say ’no way’ and then the Democrat — whoever it is — is going to just play these statements to the hills.”​

He's trying to speak to the base(Pro-Life) then trying to look appealing to the moderates or independents(Pro-Choice) and his message becomes a bunch of "gobblygook". Basically Robertson is saying, stop being so specific, you're giving away how incredibly insane we are.

Cain was asked about abortion.He gave his answer.He is pro life plain and simple.Later in the interview they tried a gottcha moment and asked him again only this time it was in cases of rape and incest.That is when he said it would be up to the familys.Come on if you are going to quote him quote him all the way not just what works for you.Otherwise you are no better then the people who are trying to twist robertsons words by cutting alot of the video out.

[/I]Basically Robertson is saying, stop being so specific, you're giving away how incredibly insane we are.[/QUOTE]

watching the whole video and you get that out of it???????Not what robertson is saying at all.
 
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Tennesseahawk

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What is so hard to understand? It is possible to be Pro life, while at the same time think that it is not the governments business (or anyone else's).

Absolutely! In fact, it's my stance. I hope people will take time to consider what they're doing, rather than have the federal government right a law.
 

muttly

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Gee, ONE person represents the ENTIRE GOP base? Strange concept. Kinda like Bill Ayers representing the ENTIRE Democrat base.

But Witness sooooo wants people to believe that ALL the republican candidates are just too gosh darn extreme and he's found his absolute proof in Pat Robertson.:rolleyes:
 

witness23

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Ummmmm......Okay?

Actaully what I want is a competent Republican to emerge from the pack that will actually challenge the President in a debate and challenge the American people when they go to the ballot box to cast their votes. The only two that fit that description in my opinion are either Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul. Instead, I have to sit and listen to two grown men argue about who cut their grass, character assination, building a Double Wall on the border, HPV vaccines, name calling, back stabbing and questioning eachother's patriotism. See, you just don't get it, this isn't a friggen' game we're playing here but that is exactly what the Republican party has turned into, a circus, and the clowns continue to come out the little Volkswagan Bug, center ring. Questions need to be answered and these idiots are running around like children on a playground arguing with eachother. I want to know how will we, as America create new jobs; what is their answers to government spending and the deficit; how will we handle immigration, healthcare, social security, education and a tax code that needs to be revised; real estate foreclosures and mass transportation; not to mention our foreign policy and what role the United States will play in the world economy. How will the new governments in the Middle East interact with the U.S.?

Turn off Fox, CNN, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Mathews, Maddow, O'donnell, stop reading polls of 900 people, and listen and think for yourselves for God's sakes!

The GOP has backed themselves into a corner by co-opting the Tea Party and signing stupid petitions that some nobody by the name of Norquist put in front of them. Who the f@#k is this guy and why does he hold power over a Representive of the people?

And guess what? Occupy Wall Street are the Democrats Tea Partiers, like it or not they are p#ssed about the same things and they have taken to the streets, just as the Tea Partiers did. Guess what, if the Democrats co-opt them and do the same things the Republicans did to the Tea Partiers, then the Democrats will have backed themselves into a corner also, and all hell will break loose. Because now we'll the two party's pandering to a small percentage of the extreme elements of their respected parties.

I don't
sooooooo want people to believe that ALL the republican candidates are just too gosh darn extreme
Their doing a fine job of portraying themselves that way all on their own.
 

dieseldiva

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Turn off Fox, CNN, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Mathews, Maddow, O'donnell, stop reading polls of 900 people, and listen and think for yourselves for God's sakes!

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If everyone turns off all of the above, who is it that you think we should be listening to? You?? The big three?? Each other?? Where shall we get our news, in your less than humble opinion??

I think everyone that contributes here in the soapbox has more than shown that they are capable of thinking for themselves and they've also shown that they are widely read and able to sort through the junk, and their eyes are wide open.

Your little rant is insulting and unnecessary.
 
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