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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
He should feel at home in this article.



Advice to a Generic Candidate

by Fred Reed

Last night on the lobotomy box I encountered yet another candidate for the presidency, a Mr. Sanctorum, threatening to make war on Iran. I can't decide whether the idea is more frightening than fascinating, or fascinating than frightening. I do suggest that the combined candidates do not have the military competence of a stuffed bear. Given that the principal business of the United States is war and preparation for it, do we want a martial analphabetic in charge? One does not let children play with chain saws. (From all of this I exempt Ron Paul, who appears to be sane.)

To save the republic, if any, from another routine military disaster, I offer the following thoughts.

To begin, I will ask the following questions of the candidates, and for that matter of Mr. Obama, and of the Secretary of Defense, a generic bureaucrat.

Can you explain: Convergence zones, base bleed, Kursk, range-gate pull-off, artillery at Dien Bien Phu, IR cross-over, Tet and queen sacrifice, Brahmos 2, CIWIS, supercruise, side-lobe penetration, seven-eighty-twice gear, super-cavitating torpedoes, phased arrays, pulse Doppler, the width of Hormuz versus the range of Iranian cruise missiles, DU, discarding sabot, frequency agility, Chobham armor, and pseudo-random PRF?

These, gentlemen, are the small talk of serious students of the military. Here I mean men like David Isby, author of such books as Weapons and Tactics of the Soviet Army for Jane's, which you likely have never heard of, or William S. Lind, probably the best military mind (though, or because, not a soldier), that I have encountered. If you are unfamiliar with them, and with the things listed above, you are unfamiliar with the military. Yet you campaign for possession of the trigger.

Perhaps a little humility, perish the thought, and a little self-examination might be in order.

Peering into your own depths, you will probably find that the humility does not come easily. In my decades of covering the armed services, I noticed among men a belief in their innate jockstrap competency regarding wars. Men who would readily admit ignorance of petroleum geology, ophthalmology, or ancient Sumerian grammar nonetheless believe that they grasp matters military. Usually they do not. In particular, they have an utterly unexamined belief in America's military invincibility.

Candidates should be wary of this. Instead, most of you propose ultimata to Iran as one would threaten a three-year-old with a spanking. You clearly think that the American flotilla would quickly thrash the impudent Persians with no unexpected consequences. Do as we say, or the fleet will teach you a jolly good lesson.

So thought Philip II in 1588.

A little reading wouldn't hurt. I would strongly recommend A Legacy of Ashes, by Tim Weiner, on the CIA, and We Meant Well, by Peter van Vuren, a former State Department guy on how Iraq actually works. You will be most surprised. I accept in advance your gratitude for these suggestions.

Once a candidate from the relative bushes gets elected, as may happen, he becomes a captive of Washington in about ten minutes. This too you should bear in mind. You will be briefed by the CIA, which will spin things so that you believe what it wants you to believe. The spooks will radiate lethal charm and speak with the assurance of a higher order of being. This will give you a sense of admission to a special tree house where everyone has a Captain Marvel secret decoder ring (two box tops and a dollar fifty). And, in Washington, you will have access to no other view. Gotcha.

You will be briefed by the Pentagon by generals with firm handshakes, steely gaze, obvious intelligence, and a convincing understanding of the world as consisting chiefly of threats. They are very good at this. You do not become a general without expertise with Power Point and the slick gab of a confidence man. Generals too are politicians. They will carry you along like a wood chip in a spring flood. And you will pay the price.

A powerful skepticism is here well advised. The belief that military men know about war is beguiling. It is their trade, is it not? Surely they must be authorities. Dentists know about dentistry. Soldiers must know about war. But how often when you go to a dentist do you return without teeth?

In fact career officers live in a mental world not well adapted to winning today's wars. You need to understand this. Theirs is a world of aggression seeking an outlet, of institutionally inculcated confidence unrelated to external reality, of suppression of dissent. Fatal bad judgment is common, and recently almost the rule. If you think this implausible, consider:

When the Japanese attacked Pearl, their military thought it would win, Yamamoto excepted. When the Wehrmacht went into Russia, it thought it would win. So did Napoleon. When the Germans attacked in 1914, they thought they would win, the Schlieffen Plan being infallible. When the Confederates shelled Sumpter, they thought they could win. When the French took on the Viet Minh, they thought they would win. When the Americans went into Viet Nam, they thought they would win. When they went into Iraq, Somalia, Beirut, Afghanistan....

And now you, our newly elected, fresh-caught president, contemplate a shooting war with Iran. Those who favor this idea will assure you that it will be short and sweet. Shock and Awe. Duck soup. A cakewalk. The Iranians will just take it, perhaps put up some slight and hapless resistance, and roll quickly over. Our airplanes, after all, say varooom and pow-pow-pow and boom.

Good luck.

Note that in the foregoing list of wars, all were expected to end quickly. This should not surprise. Military men live in the psychic world of the cavalry charge, of decisive battle, of courage, heroism, and glorious victory. Modern militaries are designed with short-and-sweet in mind, with tanks ships and aircraft intended to fight other tanks ships and aircraft. Unfortunately wars nowadays are more like dealing with a recalcitrant bureaucracy. They go on and on. Concentrated firepower doesn't work well against dispersed enemies. The treasury bleeds, the public wearies. Quick victory seldom comes. The Pentagon thrashes and thrashes every more desperately, a saber tooth in the tar pits of La Brea. Just give us a little more time, a few more troops, a surge....

Reflect that the Pentagon hasn't won a war since 1945, unless you count titanic eruptions like Granada. Yes, it usually wins the conventional battles, as it did in Afghanistan, as it did in Iraq, Mission Accomplished, but then the enemy deploys the most fearsome weapons of the last half-century: the AK, the RPG, and the IED.

The Pentagon can bomb Iran with impunity, as it could Afghanistan. It thinks it can keep the Straits open, as it thought it could do all the things in the past that it couldn't. How many burning supertankers does it take to discourage the rest?

Then the unexpected comes. It turns out that the enemy is not as stupid as the strategy required. Perhaps thousands of Iranian troops infiltrate into largely Shiite Iraq, which blows again. Oh fun.

If you can't win any war at all, start a larger one. And you, Mr. Sanctorum, or Romney, or Gingrich, will hold the bag. Such a deal.

January 9, 2012

Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well, A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Bem, Curmudgeing Through Paradise: Reports from a Fractal Dung Beetle, Au Phuc Dup and Nowhere to Go: The Only Really True Book About Viet Nam, and A Grand Adventure: Wisdom's Price-Along with Bits and Pieces about Mexico.
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
the Pentagon hasn't won a war since 1945

From someone at Carlisle Barracks;

"... [T]here's a reason we haven't won a war since 1945, we have yet to be attacked since 1941."
 

Pilgrim

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
the Pentagon hasn't won a war since 1945

From someone at Carlisle Barracks;

"... [T]here's a reason we haven't won a war since 1945, we have yet to be attacked since 1941."
Try telling that to the residents of New York City or the folks that worked in the Pentagon ten years ago.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Hey no problem

We have not been attacked by a country since 1941


It seems that we have went after one country failed to do what we needed to do, went into another and still failed in that country now we are still failing in the first - kind of defeats the concept of going after the people who attacked us in the first place.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
It seems that we have went after one country failed to do what we needed to do, went into another and still failed in that country now we are still failing in the first - kind of defeats the concept of going after the people who attacked us in the first place.
One of the basic and fundamental differences between the sane and insane (person, group, country) is the ability to perceive and then go after the correct target ....

Those that are sane can and do .... those that are insane (or acting insane) cannot ....

In fact, the insane are, quite frequently, in the habit of striking out and randomly attacking anything that is anywhere in the general vicinity .....

Further, the insane are quite often delusional, and see enemies (and friends) where none exist .....
 
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Pilgrim

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Retired Expediter
Hey no problem
We have not been attacked by a country since 1941
So even though we lost more people - innocent civilians at that - in the 911 attacks than we did at Pearl Harbor, those deaths for some reason don't count? We were attacked multiple times by a highly organized group of radical Muslim fanatics that want to destroy our way of life. Clinton and his administration let them get away with their attacks on the Cole and the other stuff, giving them the sign that we were too weak or unwilling to seriously retaliate. If he had gone after them in a serious manner back then 911 wouldn't have happened. To think that a group has to have a land mass with borders, a flag and uniformed soldiers in order to impose war on us or our allies is a bit close-minded in this day and age.
It seems that we have went after one country failed to do what we needed to do, went into another and still failed in that country now we are still failing in the first - kind of defeats the concept of going after the people who attacked us in the first place.
Granted, Viet Nam was a terrible waste of blood and treasure. The first Iraq war was a success, given its declared mission which was to chase them out of Kuwait. But since then it seems our politicians are determined to wage "kinder, gentler" politically correct wars instead of imposing total defeat on the enemy by whatever means necessary. If that's the way it's going to be, maybe we do need to keep our forces at home and pray that everyone will like us and leave us alone if we just "mind our own business".:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
So even though we lost more people - innocent civilians at that - in the 911 attacks than we did at Pearl Harbor, those deaths for some reason don't count?

I didn't imply that nor meant that, you are.

The lost of one is as important as the lost of many, no matter what one can think. BUT there is a difference between a country and an organization and will always be a difference. The problem is how the excuse is formed and what reasoning is used to form it, in this case, we reasoned that a country is behind the attack on 12/7/41 and in the process of forming that reason, we were told that they attacked us after they declared war on us, but on the other hand no country was involved with the 9/11/01 attack and no declaration of war was received but nevertheless the population acted as such there was with no reason to act as such.

The root of the problem is we are a stupid nation, take that as you want, because it is true. We can't differentiate between a group and a country, a part of a religion and the religion itself and we are left with the reasoning of a 7 year old on matters that should involve maturity and not a kneejerk reaction.

We were attacked multiple times by a highly organized group of radical Muslim fanatics that want to destroy our way of life.
Yes we were but we were also attacked by the Japanese multiple times (Pearl Harbor, Midway, Philippines) as a concerted effort to cripple us and it almost worked but it wasn't a commercial building in NYC.

Clinton and his administration let them get away with their attacks on the Cole and the other stuff, giving them the sign that we were too weak or unwilling to seriously retaliate.

Actually this is more to do with the entire national stratedgy for the middle east than it does about a single administration. True that the Clinton administration dropped the ball but it didn't do so with the cole, which there may be a bit more to the story than what we are being told. The biggest issue and one that has yet to be solved is the wall of silence that was built by the very people who were on the 9/11 commission. If we can't solve the internal problem of communications but instead built a bigger, more difficult system of protection that by its very nature can't function, then what good is all of it anyway, we are weak and everyone knows it.

If he had gone after them in a serious manner back then 911 wouldn't have happened.

We didn't have the nerve to do what we needed to do then on the world stage, and truthfully, Bush didn't bring much more nerve to the world stage when we started to go after them after 9/11.

To think that a group has to have a land mass with borders, a flag and uniformed soldiers in order to impose war on us or our allies is a bit close-minded in this day and age.

I think this reeks of arrogance. Sorry not to be an a** about it but that shows a small way of thinking because we are not the strongest nation in the world nor are we influential as we could be because of our attitude.

To think that we can trample onto other nation's soil to chase a group seems to make their issues with us justified, in so much as a good reason to actually plan and execute an attack on us to get the rest of the world against us. If we assume that we don't need to respect the world and our place in it by ignoring borders and conventional wisdom, then we are doomed as a nation and deserve what we get.

We don't have allies, which is one thing that I can't stress enough, we have nations who seem to have the same problems and fight some of the same people to have the same outcome but allies, not really. England has limitations that are built into their operations with us, seeing we have problems with Pakistan because of our actions, they are taking a different approach to the problems and trying to quell the objections of the Pakistan government. I may be wrong but we were asked to leave, the Brits are still there.

Granted, Viet Nam was a terrible waste of blood and treasure.

Korea was worse from what happened and what still is happening. The loses are not in the public view but still are loses that we didn't have to incur.

The first Iraq war was a success, given its declared mission which was to chase them out of Kuwait.

But this is the point I'm trying to make, it wasn't an attack on our country, PERIOD. It was a combination of governments to stop the escalation of a war that would have led to the overthrow of the Sauds. We didn't have a dog in the fight and the purpose we served was to put our money out there to protect another theocracy that was just as repressive as the government we were fighting. Do you see the problem??

Success?

Hardly, we were mandated by a fictional entity to limit our acts to that in order to keep that government in power for the purpose of limiting Iran. The UN and the rest of the world at that time were too weak to deal with Iran and still is for that matter.

UN - "No no no ... bad Saddam, we told you to go the other way"

Saddam - "My bad ... I didn't read the map right"

But since then it seems our politicians are determined to wage "kinder, gentler" politically correct wars instead of imposing total defeat on the enemy by whatever means necessary. If that's the way it's going to be, maybe we do need to keep our forces at home and pray that everyone will like us and leave us alone if we just "mind our own business".:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well outside of the sarcasm, the truth is somewhere in between. Our presence in most instances are the contention and cause of the hatred towards us. If we take an objective look at what we need to do opposed to what we are told to do, we may find that our contraction from the world stage would be welcomed by both us and others at the same time it would add in some cases a bit more stability to some situations by the sheer removal of a western arrogant nation.

This goes without saying that we should have a strong military which we use to defend ourselves and not others with, and abide by the supreme law of the land by using that military for defense only.
 

davekc

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Hindsight is 20/20. All kinds of reasons one can say there were mistakes. Shouldn't have done this or that means little after a situation like 9/11. The ones that say we should have sat on our hands and done nothing have no answers as to what should have been done. Using the excuse of "well it wasn't a country" so we should do nothing would be a tough sell to the families that were killed there. The idea that if we weren't there to begin with it wouldn't happen is a guess at best. No one knows that.
I'm not for policing the world but one has to realize there are just bad people out there.
 
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