Reinstate DougTravels Now!

[mypie]

DougTravels was banned from this website because he had a different political point of view than the Right Wingers on here. This is a country of Freedom of Speech and his freedoms are being silenced by the right wing moderators on here.

I say reinstate DougTravels because this is not a political website. It is a site intended to educate newbies and form a community for expediters. I also ask you to eliminate all political postings in the future. It is destroying the intended purpose of this website.

If you want DougTravels to be reinstated post your thoughts.

 

[TeamCozumel]

I was not aware that he had been banned but would he even return if the ban were removed? Would you? Can someone provide a few more details?

 

[Turtle]

DougTravels was banned from this website because he had a different political point of view than the Right Wingers on here.

Without even knowing what happened, I guarantee you that he was not banned simply because he has a differing political opinion. It was because he violated the Code of Conduct. He's been banned at least once already, and politics had nothing to do with it.

This is a country of Freedom of Speech and his freedoms are being silenced by the right wing moderators on here.

The Internet is not a country.

I say reinstate DougTravels because this is not a political website.

It is a site intended to educate newbies and form a community for expediters.[/quote]The site is intended to be precisely what it is, a community of expediters who can converse about things beyond expediting.

I also ask you to eliminate all political postings in the future.

Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that eliminating all political postings in the future might come a tad close to silencing freedom of speech. Are there any other topics of conversation that you feel should be off limits?

It is destroying the intended purpose of this website.

I think you mean it is destroying your perception of what the Web site should be, not what it was designed to be. If political discussion wasn't a part of the purpose of this Website, why is there a forum specifically for political discussions?

If you want DougTravels to be reinstated post your thoughts.

I don't know anything about Doug being banned. I don't even know that he's been banned, actually. But I do know that he was banned once, after more than fair warning, and he was reinstated and given one more chance. If he's been banned, he clearly blew that chance.

 

[Poorboy]

I wasn't aware that he was Banned either, As a Matter of fact He posted something in the past few weeks I Think it was either to The Chef or Layout but Not Sure, and he Inferred that he was Staying out of the Soap Box! But I Do Find it Odd that when he stopped coming to the Soap Box So did Tallcal--Are They One in The Same? Who Knows for sure!

 

[Darmstadter]

Even though some of his stuff was out in left field, much of it was funny. The forum is alot more interesting with him posting.

 

[Moot]

I say reinstate the van. Some nutjob is always trying to ban the van. This is a free country. America needs vans.

 

[Lawrence]

I love grass-roots movements.

 

[letzrockexpress]

I'm sure Doug and Mr. "G" are out having a great time somewhere, listening to some Jim Croce' and rolling down the highway...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I love grass-roots movements.

watch for picket signs out your window Lawrence...

 

[letzrockexpress]

Perhaps a grass roots effort is exactly what is needed to bring Doug back. "take it to the streets" so to speak. I know a group of picketers who would love to help out....

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Classic, Letzrock!

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Hey Rock...didn't you try to take on the Dirty Dozen of the soapbox? and look what happened....

The dirty dozen never crosses the line but they sure nudge it a bit...*L*

Doug lost it and paid the price....

Example..Ateam...Phil gets knocked all the time by the same few...even one of the biggest know it alls accusing another of being one...*LOL*

 

[arkjarhead]

I don't know what happened, but there is nothing wrong with having a disagrement here it happens all the time. It becomes a problem when it isn't handeled correctly. I've been guilty of that before myself in the past. You have to watch what you say here just like in everyday life.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I don't know what happened, but there is nothing wrong with having a disagrement here it happens all the time. It becomes a problem when it isn't handeled correctly. I've been guilty of that before myself in the past. You have to watch what you say here just like in everyday life.

Exactly..it is not an exact free for all....there is a line in the sand. I too have nudged the line quite a few times...maybe even smeared it abit...but I still know exactly where it is...

 

[dieseldiva]

This is the right idea.....let's organize a protest, we'll call it the "Million Expediter March".... on Florence. We'll have to start in Cincy cause ya can't move far with a million expediters. Thinking about it, this might have been easier to do last weekend when so many were closer together at the Expo....darn, missed it by "that" much!

Perhaps a grass roots effort is exactly what is needed to bring Doug back. "take it to the streets" so to speak. I know a group of picketers who would love to help out....

 

[highway star]

I don't believe that anyone has been, or ever will be, banned from this site because of their political views. Based on what I saw when he was banned, I think I have an idea of what happened. If that's the case, it was justified.

There's no freedom of speech here, and that's not a bad thing. We all agreed to a code of conduct. It simply calls for civility. As OVM said, the line is there. It's real easy to make your point and not cross that line.

Doug came back from his suspension to be a good member. It's too bad it happened to the guy, but he could have avoided it. Certainly, the procedure it takes to communicate here should keep a person from "blurting out". By the time you hit reply and compose a post, you should have enough time to take a deep breath and temper your words.

 

[letzrockexpress]

I don't believe that anyone has been, or ever will be, banned from this site because of their political views

Maybe not directly. If one joins this forum and "preaches to the choir" so to speak, I submit they are treated much more fairly than one who joins this forum and goes against the grain... This has been demonstrated time and time again.

 

[LDB]

Originally Posted by mypie
As a moderator you need to be more tolerant of others. You can't let your personal feelings get in the way of your job!

It is just like you Right Wing Fox News/Rush Limbaugh Parroting Idiots to want to shut up someone with a different (more educated and objective) point of view. Afterall, Fox News isn't really news now is it? Real news provides all the facts and allows the listener to form their opinions based on all sides. Fox News only tells you one side, their side so you become incapable of objectively forming your own opinions. Isn't that what Hitler did to the good people of Germany? And, Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than an outdated biggotted prescription drug addicted windbag who is a self-professed "entertainer". Entertainer?!? You find entertainment in the spewing of hate? That says a lot about your own character in my opinion!

Ban me! I double dare you. I will have your "moderator" job. Reinstate DougTravels.

So much to work with. My personal feelings are just that, mine, and do not affect how I do my moderator job. I disagree with some and agree with some but the rules are the rules and not open to feelings, just observance.

One could infer from your post that you are calling me an idiot and uneducated but I'll presume you mean that generically and not as a direct personal insult in violation of the code of conduct. I do have a degree and earned it with grades back in the old days of the 70's before they were sold on the internet.

I don't listen to Rush. I prefer shows like Dennis Pragar and Michael Medved where callers play a larger role and debate occurs over shows that just drone on from their perspective with little outside input.

You don't know me so you are entirely wrong is saying I find entertainment in spewing of hate. I find entertainment in the old time radio channel on satellite radio. You are the one spewing hate in this post with the disparaging remark about my character which is direct and a violation.

I don't want to ban you and even if I did I don't have that authority or ability as a moderator. I'm not even going to waste my time giving you an infraction for code violation although that doesn't mean another moderator won't. If you want my "job" and the admin team chooses for you to have it then more power to you.

 

[Doggie Daddy]

maybe not directly. If one joins this forum and "preaches to the choir" so to speak, i submit they are treated much more fairly than one who joins this forum and goes against the grain... This has been demonstrated time and time again.

agreed!!!!!

 

[Dreamer]

OK.. everyone who has EVER disagreed with me is hereby banned!

Hello? (echo echo).

Um. Where to begin. Mypie. No.

While I admit there are a predominance of conservatives on here, that is not by design. No one has EVER been banned for different political views. They HAVE been banned for not knowing where that thin line is.

As many have already said, they nudge that line all the time. It's when people cross that line, after repeated warnings, and take their attacks personal, that I have a problem.

Doug was suspended before for the same issues, and KNEW he was crossing the line.. he said so in his last post and basically DARED me to ban him. Um. No.

For the record. I suspended Doug, not Leo. Doug will be welcomed back when his suspension is up, just like many others, regulars who now participate often.

Hopefully, he will ad his 'spice' back in without giving me heartburn


Dale