Refer weight and over all weight questions

jaminjim · Apr 9, 2007

Dave said: "If one is running D classed freight at C rates, that would be enough for me to have a billed pulled to see what the customer actually paid, regardless of what the dollar amount was."

It won't matter if you are getting paid a percentage of the Tarrif(sp), It will only matter if you get paid a percent of the freight bill.

Prarysun · Apr 9, 2007

WOW Thanks some interesting information from you all!! I did not realize that you would have to pay FET regardless of when you put on the tag/pusher axle! We were told to do it after the sale to avoid that, see what I mean, you get info from people and want to believe what you are told because they seem to know what they are talking about but apparently well meaning, we can get bad info.

The axle is presently at 335" Churneys of Cleveland said they push their axles back to 316 to 317". Does that seem okay if we are going to keep just the one axle? That to me, correct me if I am wrong, will take some weight off the front axle, and give us more space to put more weight on the back. Right now, the rear axle is sitting about 6' from the end of the truck, 316" would put it up to 7 and a half ft allowing us to put 4 pallets nearly behind the back axle but depending on the teeter tauter effect is how we would load. Am I in the ballpark with my thinking? I really appreciate all of your help! I agree, I think we should run and see what we can do without the 2nd axle but I have a feeling we will still have to move it up some right? Have a great week everyone!

Dianne

greg334 · Apr 9, 2007

Yep Phil, of course it is alright with you but for some of us it is a pain in the a**.

TeamCaffee · Apr 9, 2007

Leo if you add the pusher axle as a accessory and not as an axle how hard would it be for a auditor to figure out what that accessory is? I believe that is the standard practice it to not buy the extra axle at the dealer you purchased the truck from to avoid the tax. I have even heard of the dealer driving the truck to the shop that will install the pusher so you will have two different invoices.

ATeam · Apr 16, 2007

>Now that you got me curious, I might make a scale trip with
>our current load. It is 4,000 lbs. and rear loaded. If we
>can work a scale trip in before delivery, I'll let you know
>how it turned out.

It turned out that 4,000 lbs. of freight in the rear reduced the weight on the steers by 1,000 lbs.

More specifically, our CR unit can carry six skids. That is three rows with two skids in each row. Call the back row position one, the middle row position two, and the front row position three. In this case, the 4,000 lbs. consisted of two skids loaded side by side in position two. Had we secured them in position one or three, the front axle weight would probably have been lighter or heavier.

Again, these numbers are for our truck only. Different configurations will produce different results. If the freight is loaded ahead of the rear axles, the front axle weight would likely increase, not decrease.