Real unemployment rate 22.9%

[AMonger]

Many thanks to the voters of Ohio, Michigan, Florida and Virginia who foisted this disaster on our nation.

Thank the Republican National Committee. They foisted a very weak candidate on the nation, and they got their way. Just like when the Demon-crats couldn't win an election because they nominated ridiculous lose-before-they-start candidates like McGovern; Mondale; Dukakis; and Kerry, the Republicans have taken up that strategy with Dole, McCain, and Romney. They lost before they started.
You should be able to include Bush in there, but the country was so sick of Clinton's Demon-crats, we would have elected a yellow hound if it had an R after its name, and the second go-around, he was a war-time president in office when America was attacked. If it weren't for those anomalies, it would have been Demon-crats straight through.
Now, that said, as has been noted, the Tipping Point--the point at which those riding the gravy train are numerous enough and powerful enough that they are shouting at those of us pushing to work harder so their ride isn't interrupted--has been reached, is there ANYBODY the Republicans could have nominated to beat the poster child for the Welfare State? Is there anything short of secession or collapse that can undo that now that that point has been reached?

tl;dr Blaming blocks of voters by state isn't the answer. The problem lies elsewhere.

 

[aristotle]

Several states have recently acted to reign in union thuggery. Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio... now Michigan. Watching those union members protesting, cursing, bullying and basically intimidating anyone who holds a different viewpoint does more to harm their cause than any politician could do. These screaming meanies are their own worst enemy. Every time a mob of union thugs behaves badly for the TV cameras, they lose support.

 

[AMonger]

Michigan is being changed from the inside out, which is the ONLY way change, real change, can take place.

I guess Michiganders had to see first hand the destruction modern unions bring before they would believe it. Now they can look at Detroit and Flint and see where the union train leads, and they finally realize, too late, that it doesn't lead somewhere good.
Now, the problem is, even if they reverse course, there's still a lot of pain ahead before they can recover. East Germany had their wealthy cousins to the west to help them when communism came crashing down there. The economy in the rest of America is in shambles; there's no one to help Michigan recover right now. Of course, maybe since they keep voting for Demon-crat presidents, it's a sign they haven't yet hit rock bottom and aren't ready for help yet, anyway.

 

[layoutshooter]

Several states have recently acted to reign in union thuggery. Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio... now Michigan. Watching those union members protesting, cursing, bullying and basically intimidating anyone who holds a different viewpoint does more to harm their cause than any politician could do. These screaming meanies are their own worst enemy. Every time a mob of union thugs behaves badly for the TV cameras, they lose support.

They have been their own worst enemy for a very long time.

One must fight the battles that one has a chance to win. This is a VERY slow process and it is going to take a LONG time in Michigan. Those who really work are getting tired of paying for those who don't and it is starting to show.

Maybe a move to REQUIRE the 'welfare rangers' and 'medicaid mammas' to WORK for their FREEBIES would be a WONDERFUL next step. That would promise to DROP the States population and welfare roles DRASTICALLY! That would lower the State's money shortfalls and then, MAYBE, we could start attracting NEW businesses and people who WANT to work!!! We can send ALL who can't take the idea of working for a living to California where they belong.

 

[layoutshooter]

I guess Michiganders had to see first hand the destruction modern unions bring before they would believe it. Now they can look at Detroit and Flint and see where the union train leads, and they finally realize, too late, that it doesn't lead somewhere good.
Now, the problem is, even if they reverse course, there's still a lot of pain ahead before they can recover. East Germany had their wealthy cousins to the west to help them when communism came crashing down there. The economy in the rest of America is in shambles; there's no one to help Michigan recover right now. Of course, maybe since they keep voting for Demon-crat presidents, it's a sign they haven't yet hit rock bottom and aren't ready for help yet, anyway.

We don't want any help, we CAN and WILL, do it on our own! There is far more going on than is being reported. FINALLY, the RESPONSIBLE residents in Michigan are waking up. Time to drive out the riff raff.

 

[AMonger]

Several states have recently acted to reign in union thuggery. Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio... now Michigan. Watching those union members protesting, cursing, bullying and basically intimidating anyone who holds a different viewpoint does more to harm their cause than any politician could do. These screaming meanies are their own worst enemy. Every time a mob of union thugs behaves badly for the TV cameras, they lose support.

What do you expect from them? They're acting according to their nature. Violence and extortion are at the heart of trade unionism.

 

[davekc]

What do you expect from them? They're acting according to their nature. Violence and extortion are at the heart of trade unionism.

I find the MSM hilarious. Here you have union members assaulting other people and not one word except for that moron of a President supporting them. These people are total idiots.
Now I ask, can you imagine if this was a member of the Tea Party?
Oh...the horror.

 

[LDB]

Dave, you mean there's a double standard?!?

 

[davekc]

They keep saying there isn't one. We are all equal.

 

[Pilgrim]

When I said U6 counts those unemployed for a year or less, what I meant was that it doesn't count those discouraged workers out of the labor market for over a year. I just said it backwards. Wasn't saying that's what the chart is for.

I figured that was it - just wanted to add the other stuff.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Don't forget all the Johnson and other third party voters as well as all the write in voters as well as those who abstained from voting. All those people cast their vote for Obama just as surely as if they'd pushed the button for Obama.

Don't forget all the lemmings and sheep who gave us the status quo neo-con candidate.

 

[layoutshooter]

Just ANOTHER election when no one ran, from start to finish. It is clear that while there is something rising to the top in this country it is NOT the cream!

 

[davekc]

Just ANOTHER election when no one ran, from start to finish. It is clear that while there is something rising to the top in this country it is NOT the cream!

What is rising is more government debt and taxes.

 

[layoutshooter]

What is rising is more government debt and taxes.

They are but that is NOT what I had in mind!