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cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Flattop: even someone who hasn't been around long enough to know Moot's sense of humor (or know that he drives a van himself) could see that post was a joke, I'd think.
BTW: about your sigline, about the birds? How do you know that birds (or any wild things, for that matter) don't feel sorry for themselves?:confused:
 

flattop40

Expert Expediter
Flattop: even someone who hasn't been around long enough to know Moot's sense of humor (or know that he drives a van himself) could see that post was a joke, I'd think.
BTW: about your sigline, about the birds? How do you know that birds (or any wild things, for that matter) don't feel sorry for themselves?:confused:

Humans are the only living thing that has all these other mixed up emotions and feelings. All other living things only concern themselves with the fundimentals of life which are food, shelter, and reproduce. That is it. Only humans have empathy, remorse, sorrow, etc. We are so littered with mental short comings. Do any of the 7 deadly sins apply to any other living thing? I think not.

Even on this site I see it day in and day out. woo is me, I'm not doing well, somebody did me wrong, blah blah blah its all the same old cry baby crap that has taken over this country and the world.

When traveling this great country almost on a daily basis I can't help but to think how people did it just 200 years ago. Try traveling thru say west virginia or nevada etc. Back then we were for the most part concerned with the fundimentals food, shelter, and reproduce. This day in age people take these items for granted, a right, but its not.

Survival of the fittest.

Obviously you don't know where I got both of those sayings. They are from a great movie "G.I.Jane" When you get the chance watch it.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
As humans have long reigned at the top of the food chain, looks like those "mixed up" emotions aren't such a liability, IMO.
Anyone who's ever owned a pet can tell you that animals have empathy, and I've seen the movie - and still don't think either one of your siglines is true. (If you need pain to tell you you're alive, knock yourself out - but I'll take joy, thank you.)
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
Possibly I was not clear in my original post.

I am not talking about stopping on the tracks. Please....

My scenario was braking while crossing.

Many years ago while working for L.B. Foster (Railroad Salvage) I was removing a set of tracks. While working a mere 20 feet from a crossing a continually heard a chirping sound as cars were crossing those tracks.

While speaking with an engineer from Goodyear he explained how the wheel stops momentarily in the scenario I presented. At that point in time the wheel is not contacting the surface and the braking force (NOT STOPPING FORCE) causes the wheel to cease rotation; it stops turning. When it strikes the surface again the tire, brakes, axle, differential, etc. all are subjected to extreme force.

The engineer said that Goodyear had filmed that scenario in slow motion and you can actually see pieces (microscopic) of the tire coming off as it strikes the surface. He also indicated that negatively effects the other components as well.

If you disagree, help yourself. I am certain every repair/parts center will apppreciate servicing/repairing your truck.

If you want to argue simply because you have nothing better to do, help yourself.

If you need additional verification contact Goodyear and ask if you can see the video. I would imagine every major tire manufacturer has filmed the same scenario. You may also want to contact American Axle, Dana, Rockwell, Eaton.
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
Animals can manifest empathy?

What next, apes sitting around in Laz-a-boy chairs, smoking cigars and reading the newspaper?

Like the misinformed reporter I saw on TV showing a gorilla whose offspring died. The gorilla was trying to make the dead offspring move, because that is how animals avoid predators. The reporter was trying to establish a parallel between the gorilla's actions and the nurturing given to a human child by a human mother. The reporter actually said, "..like our cousins, the gorillas." None of my relatives swing by their tails from trees!

Look, I have pets. I enjoy the company of my parrot.

His snuggles, cooing and cute behaviors are not because he can rationally determine to do such; it is an reaction taught via repetition.

Mankind has a living soul. Animals do not.

Any attempt to give human attritubutes to animals is a subtle method of disavowing God's creation; hence, no God...anything goes.

Ask liberals about how they arrive at their conclusions and their response will be predicated by, “Because I feel...”

On the other hand, ask conservatives, and their response will be predicated by, “Because I think...”
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I don't get what you are pointing to? Failure of componenets due to bouncing on RR tracks or shortening the life of your vans/trucks driveline?

Which ever, the used to be stuff is gone, the breaking of components is not likely unless you really beat the hell out of what ever you are driving (or dumb enough to put 4000 lbs on vehicle that should only have 2000).

In the last 10 years material science has come a long way and so has engineering and manufacturing quality. The idea that you can do serious damage to an unladen or partially loaded vehicle while braking on RR tracks should not be a concern as much as one hitting pot holes or driving the vehicle overladen and driving it hard.

GM, Packard and Ford in the 50's used high speed photography to help them engineer their driveline and suspensions. They did things by testing and testing again, if they needed RR tracks there was a section of tracks that was used by all the auto companies in Detroit and they even paid the city to make sure the crossing was not repaired.

Today a lot of the components aren't even made, they are modeled and they are used in simulations before the first prototype is made. And then these prototypes are tested in some amazing tests that simulate thousands of miles before on the vehicle testing is done.

Breaking is not the problem, getting across in one peice should be the only concern. If one follows the basic rules, then there is no problems.

I want to add this; I have had people who come to a screaching halt in front of me so they can slowly go over the tracks. They are so worried about their suspension on their lease vehicle going over a smooth track......
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
I promise to activate my 4-way flashers within 300 yards of the tracks, slow down gradually and then cross without my foot on the brake pedal.

As I said before, talk to the engineers or ask if you can see the slow motion video.

You could go and lay next to the crossing so you can get a better view. Just don't lay on the tracks!
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Animals can manifest empathy?
What would you call it, when a dog refuses to leave the side of his dead master? Or a longtime companion, human or canine?
You've never seen a photo of an animal who's "adopted" an infant of a different species, and nurtured it? Who taught it do do that?

What next, apes sitting around in Laz-a-boy chairs, smoking cigars and reading the newspaper?
Haha :rolleyes: - but that'd be better than some of what they are likely to do at the zoo, in public.

Like the misinformed reporter I saw on TV showing a gorilla whose offspring died. The gorilla was trying to make the dead offspring move, because that is how animals avoid predators. The reporter was trying to establish a parallel between the gorilla's actions and the nurturing given to a human child by a human mother. The reporter actually said, "..like our cousins, the gorillas." None of my relatives swing by their tails from trees!
It'd sure liven up the family get togethers, though, wouldn't it?


Look, I have pets. I enjoy the company of my parrot.

His snuggles, cooing and cute behaviors are not because he can rationally determine to do such; it is an reaction taught via repetition.
So who 'taught' the dogs who have saved peoples' lives? And I can assure you that no one taught the Rottweiler who served as protector to my daughter from infancy through adolescence - it was entirely the dog's idea!

Mankind has a living soul. Animals do not.
That may be a theory, conjecture, or dogma, but it's NOT a fact.

Any attempt to give human attritubutes to animals is a subtle method of disavowing God's creation; hence, no God...anything goes.
Atheism being a well known defense for antisocial behavior, huh?

Ask liberals about how they arrive at their conclusions and their response will be predicated by, “Because I feel...”

On the other hand, ask conservatives, and their response will be predicated by, “Because I think...”
Another untrue, meaningless way of dismissing those whom you feel superior to. And whose words are they? Because somehow, I feel they're not yours, originally, but you failed to acknowledge that - that's called plagiarism, you know?
 
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