Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own loa

[vandriver101]

Hello,
I just have a couple of questions for other panther O/O,Who either used back haul or regularly book there own loads.I understand that you pay panther 15% for using there authority.How does it work if you break down or have to be swaped out for some reason?Do you have full backing of panther while on the load,Dispatch,Directions etc.How does Canadian loads work out with brokers and the back haul department?
Thanks for any info be safe
O/O B unit Panther #11514 Since 03/06

 

[are12]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

We have only used back haul a couple of times so I will answer on what I know.

Yes, Panther receives 15%.
With the Border Crossing, you must get all that info from the shipper, not Panther, and all details are worked out between you and the broker.

After the details are worked out, the Broker will call Panther and set everything up and Panther will send it over the QC. Once accepted, you will get your directions as usual.

We always call Back Haul and let them know we took the load and at what amount. Just keep in mind, when doing a back haul, the flat rate is for all miles (empty and loaded), for any tolls and/or border crossings.

I do not know how a break down or swap would work. If in doubt, call the Back Haul Dept and I am sure they will gladly go over any questions you might have.

Hope this helps and be safe!

 

[ATeam]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

Not so long ago, there was a thread started by a Panther driver on a load that got tangled up in the things you are asking about. I don't recall the driver's name or thread title. His post speaks directly to the questions you ask. Perhaps someone can provide a link to that thread.

 

[davekc]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

Arlene and Jim got it right. It is pretty simple process. As to a break down or anyting like that it would depend on whether it is expedite or LTL. If it is a LTL load, you can usually fix your truck and then deliver as there isn't a appointment time. Expedite is alittle different. You may have to have your vehicle towed to the location or possibly Panther could send a recovery vehicle if available, but you would pay the cost.
On Canada loads, you have to have everything squared away BEFORE you leave the shipper. That means calling the customes broker and making sure everything is covered. That was the issue with another post. He got to customs and the load wasn't cleared. That can be a problem.
Outside of that, everything else is between you and the broker/customer.














Davekc
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23 years
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[are12]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

Found out, 1st hand, what happens when you are on a backhaul and have a breakdown.

It is up to the driver and the broker on how to deal with the problem.

No more backhauls for us, next time we will just DH to a good area!!

 

[60MPH]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

call wally don't know his ext. he has all the back haul answers, he has never let me down

60 MPH ALL DAY-EVERY DAY

 

[Tennesseahawk]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

are12... you're giving up too easy. What are the chances you'll breakdown with a backhaul? Prepare yourself with contacts next time, in case you do breakdown. It's part of being a business owner. Don't wait for the unknowns to hit ya. And don't be afraid to make money just because there are unknowns.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[are12]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

Wally was the one that told us, that since this is a backhaul, it is between us and the broker on how this load will be handled.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

I totally understand that. What I'm saying is with a little research and a few phone calls, you'll be prepared to conquer any glitch that may come up on a backhaul. Just knowing where to look is the hardest problem. And if you have an internet card, there goes your problem (unless you're in the boonies).

That's one thing that Panther has on other companies. They know how to make you dependant on them. Not saying everyone who runs for them are suckling the Panther teet. But a good many drivers are so dependant on Panther for their decision-making, they wouldn't make it at most other companies. Definitely not mine.

-Vampire Super Slooth Trucker!!!

 

[davekc]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

We had a breakdown once several years ago. No big deal. There isn't anything complicated about it. Call the broker and tell them whats up. If it is a backhaul or a LTL load, I don't see the concern. So what if it shows up a day late? LTL loads aren't on time specific appointments. Only exception would be if it is a expedite. In that case you should have enough in the rate to handle those types of issues.











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[Teflon]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

If I am ever in a back haul situation again I will:

1) check out the broker and all contracts
2) have broker\shipper stipulate all payments in writing
3) never cross the border
4) LISTEN TO MY WIFE, AND NOT TAKE THE ##### THING!!!!!!!

Teflon

 

[are12]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

<<<<are12... you're giving up too easy. What are the chances you'll breakdown with a backhaul? Prepare yourself with contacts next time, in case you do breakdown. It's part of being a business owner. Don't wait for the unknowns to hit ya. And don't be afraid to make money just because there are unknowns.>>>>>


THawk,

Believe me, we did not give up. We had contacts from the beginning of this load and more contacts were given to us, since the breakdown.

We are still 12 hours from our delivery (which should have been delivered on Wednesday) and the truck has been in the shop since Tuesday. We have been in constant touch with Panther, the Broker and the Customer since the truck went down.

Detroit Diesel got us right in on Tuesday, ordered the injector and said we would be up and running by Wednesday evening. Called the customer and told them we would be there by 0800 today.

Unfortunately, when they put the truck back together and fired it, it was still rapping and missing. So, back to square one.

Once again, we were on the phone with everyone and letting them know what was going on. Our main concern was not ******* off the Broker since he pays very well. We even went as far as finding a dock we could bump, if the broker wanted to swap the load.

So, now we are waiting for a fuel pump to get here and we should be up and running tomorrow. Made arrangements with the customer to either deliver on Saturday or Monday (since his guys are Union).

As a business owner, I think we covered everything. It is just that we feel bad since this load should have been there already. Wally assured us, we are not the 1st to break down under a backhaul and we will certainly not be the last.

What, if anything, could we have handled differently? Believe me, I am not being sarcastic by asking this question. I am just trying to find answer for myself and anyone else that might want to know.

Be Safe!!

 

[davekc]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

Nothing. It looks to me like you are doing everything right. Wally is correct, trucks break down. No big deal. Get it fixed, and then deliver.









Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
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[kangar0085]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

I hate steel/flatbed and all LTL and weak brokered freight. }>

 

[kangar0085]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

SAY NO TO CHEAP FREIGHT!

 

[are12]

RE: Question for Panther O/Os who booked there own

That is just it, this was not CHEAP freight. We were getting good money for this run or we would never have taken it.

Of course, with all these extra days we are going to have invested in the load, it might as well have been cheap freight!:+ :+

The worst part about this whole mess, we are less than 200 miles from the house.