President defends abortion as a right..

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Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I don't know what you're babbling about. Abortion is legal in all states. Good for you that you took care of your kids. That's what you are suposed to do.

That is right, I did what I was susposed to do. So should EVERYONE else. I should NOT be FORCED to pay for someone else's kids or to kill them.

The Federal government does NOT HAVE the LEGAL authority to use FORCE to make me pay for abortion OR National Health.

I was trying to answer Pjjjj.

Adoption of U.S. babies is discouraged. The cost is silly. They requirements are stupid. A separate bedroom for each kid you adopt. DUMB.

My hunting buddy tried to adopt a baby for 3 years here. He finally gave up and went to China and adopted a baby.

It would seem that the U.S. does not want adoption, just abortion.

The ONLY reason that abortion is not illegal in many states is the supreme court is out of control.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Instead of everyone bickering about what their morality is and what their politics are, how about proposing viable alternative solutions to abortion?

I don't see any bickering in this thread. Nothing is out of control, just debate.

I don't see the debate as you do, I feel that we're all free to have these discussions WITHOUT offering viable solutions, why would I be responsible for finding solutions to someone's very personal problem? I don't think "collectively" like that, I take care of mine, you take care of yours.

IMHO, there's only one alternative to abortion and that's adoption.



I had a look at the statistics the other day, and I found them quite interesting.

Someone in another post asked if you people who oppose a woman's right to abort are willing to adopt their children instead? He asked if you were willing to support the woman and all of her children via social assistance. Good questions, but I didn't hear any takers.

I wasn't reading or posting in the thread that you refer to but that's pretty ridiculous. Again, if I don't want you to murder your baby, it's UP TO ME to adopt it?? There are MANY couples in this country that want to adopt and either cannot for whatever reasons or they end up going to other countries where it's easier.....maybe we should be asking why it's so difficult to adopt here??


You are opposing that the government should pay the few hundred bucks for an abortion, but you don't go the step further to say who will support the children who were to be aborted, if it became illegal.. and read the stats to find out how many of them there are.

It isn't the "few hundred bucks" that concerns me. As a tax payer, I don't want my dollars paying for what I consider to be murder of innocent children.


You guys whine and complain about these things, but I don't see you even attempting to come up with better solutions that can accommodate all the things you hold dear, and for everyone.


Again, I don't see the "whining and complaining".....shall we just shut up, sit down, and go along to get along??? That's the socialist way and I don't think we're going to see that here anytime soon


I am not picking on anyone in particular here, and as a matter of fact, I find abortion a very sad thing. I would personally hate to have ever been in such a horrible position where I had to even think about that kind of decision. I can still however, have the compassion to understand not only what a horrible predicament it must be, but also to have to live with the decision, no matter what decision is made, for the rest of one's life.

Which is a worse decision to have to live with for the rest of your life, knowing that you aborted (murdered) your own flesh and blood or that you carried it to full term and gave it a chance to live it's life as you have yours, with a loving family that wanted it and could raise it in the loving environment that it deserves?


In the 'dark ages', some women's mental states over unwanted pregnancies would make coat hangers a better option for themselves than giving birth, even if it cost their own life.

When you people are talking about making end-of-life decisions for your loved ones, you say it is between the loved one, yourself and your doctor, and nobody else. Why is it that you believe you should get to intervene on such personal and private decisions for others?

It's apples and oranges. Zero comparison to making decisions for end-of-life and making a decision to end a life before it ever begins.

I can personally accept that a woman can have one horrible circumstance happen one time in her life at a time when she can't deal with everything that goes along with carrying a child to term and giving birth. I also believe that if it happens a second time, she should automatically be sterilized at the same time and forfeit her right to any future children, wanted or unwanted.

Then you just made a big decision FOR HER, didn't you?

So what are your solutions instead of just stating that it is wrong and you don't want to pay for it?

Again, I won't be offering any solutions beyond what I've spoken of above. This is a hot button issue that won't be going away anytime soon, we all have our opinions about it but I won't be challenged to offer up solutions or don't speak out.
 
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