Pickup expediter

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
The RV Hauler application Say's F 250 or 2500. I was under the impression they were 3\4 Ton trucks. Plus no one in their right mind is going to turn a horse(s) or cattle unless they are comfortable the driver has hauled them before on a regular basis.;)
 

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
Since this was seen in Northern Indiana, my guess is it's an RV hauler from factory to dealer. Appears to be a single rear wheel unit with a 9900 GVWR. So when they "drop" the trailer are they no longer a "commercial vehicle" and are free to dead head back without logging???

It likely is an RV hauler. I did that for a while. Officially you are suposed to log when deadheading back, however most carriers provide magnetic signs that can be removed on the way back, giving the illusion of not being a commercial vehicle.
 

gotta go

Veteran Expediter
When I was doing drive-away, never did the tow-away thing, I made a connection with Ft.Wayne Auto Auction to return lease vehicles to them. It worked to get paid both directions, but it's not an easy way to get rich. :)
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
The RV Hauler application Say's F 250 or 2500. I was under the impression they were 3\4 Ton trucks. Plus no one in their right mind is going to turn a horse(s) or cattle unless they are comfortable the driver has hauled them before on a regular basis.;)

The wording in that link you're referring to is a little messed up. What most companies require is a minimum of a 3/4 ton truck, 1 tons preferred. Also, most of the RV Transport companies require your 3/4 or 1 ton truck to have a Turbo Diesel under the hood.

As far as what you said about turning your Horse or Cattle over to a driver that better have some experience transporting livestock, RV Transporting companies are not in the Livestock Delivery business. What they're referring to is delivering Horse and Cattle trailers (usually bumper pulls or goosenecks) from the Manufacturer to the selling Dealer, empty, brand new, and nobodys "Fluffy the Stallion" in the trailer.

Got a laugh out of that one, Thanks Bill!! :D
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
It likely is an RV hauler. I did that for a while. Officially you are suposed to log when deadheading back, however most carriers provide magnetic signs that can be removed on the way back, giving the illusion of not being a commercial vehicle.

And that varies from company to company. Like when I was running for Hoosier, they did not require their drivers with 3/4 ton trucks to "Log" when they were empty. But then when I drove for Quality, they required everybody, 3/4 tons and 1 tons, to Log no matter what. Of course, with Quality having that requirement, their Safestat rating was the best in the industry.

With CSA2010 coming along, I can almost guarantee that all Transport companies are now requiring everything to be "logged" no matter what. Quality and Hoosier both have already implemented a "Class A" License only for all their drivers, even though a large portion of their "single" deliveries are trailers with GVWR's and actual weights well under 10K.
 

BigBusBob

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I should have been rolling 15 min. ago. thanks guys!! lol. Anyways, that one truck on page one of this thread is a Ford with a KW 86" sleeper, thats got to have some serious beefing up on the frame to be able to not destroy the mechanics. That can't be healthy. I would have done perhaps an extended cab with the KW sleeper, that's a long stretch... Neat idea, but I have to question the practical side of it- weight wise and handling wise it's got to have some mathematical issues involved.
I'm going to be back on this thread, not much time to read everything... got to Rolllllll!!!!
 

SMBurns

Seasoned Expediter
My "Dream" Expedite truck would be a "Big C - Mini D" unit being built with a Dodge 5500 C/C, 6.7 Cummins, and 19.5K GVWR. Truck with sleeper attached and 16ft box would weigh in about 10K on the ground leaving you with about 9K in total weight carrying abilities along with 6-8 skids. Such a truck would keep you under IFTA and Apportioned Plating requirements, and would allow a Solo Driver the option to take those shorter loads/runs that are just a tad higher in weight and size than a CV could carry.

Sure, you'll have to abide by HOS with a rig like my "dream rig", but there's stories all over this board over the years where Solo D unit drivers took a "B-C" load that was right on the verge of being too heavy and big for CV's and Sprinters.

Hello
I have Dodge 5500, 2011, 40' Goose neck trailer. Hauling oilfield equipment out of Oklahoma to eastern U.S. Doing really well, making good money. Average trip is 1200 miles with back hauls. I got apportioned Plates, IFTA, etc.

If crossing state lines, hauling commercial, (for hire). It's my understanding you are required to have apportioned plates, keep a log and IFTA. Is there a certain weight you have to stay under to avoid that stuff? Am I reading your post wrong? Working on second 5500 truck and if I don't need the apportioned plates that would be great. Apportioned registation is controlled by the Corporation Commission here in Okla. All they want is money and offer no advice. Clarification would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bill B.
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
Hello
I have Dodge 5500, 2011, 40' Goose neck trailer. Hauling oilfield equipment out of Oklahoma to eastern U.S. Doing really well, making good money. Average trip is 1200 miles with back hauls. I got apportioned Plates, IFTA, etc.

If crossing state lines, hauling commercial, (for hire). It's my understanding you are required to have apportioned plates, keep a log and IFTA. Is there a certain weight you have to stay under to avoid that stuff? Am I reading your post wrong? Working on second 5500 truck and if I don't need the apportioned plates that would be great. Apportioned registation is controlled by the Corporation Commission here in Okla. All they want is money and offer no advice. Clarification would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bill B.

Hey Bill,

Your 5500 has a GVWR of 19,500. Don't know what axles are under your 40ft GN, but their either 2 7K's or 2 10k's. Hauling oilfield equipment, I bet you're running with 2 10K's, thus making your trailer in the 20K GVCWR range. You probably have your truck "registered" at 26K, and are running a total weight rating on your IRP and Apportioned plates at between 36-38K. Right???

With this set-up, there is no avoiding apportioned plating and IFTA filings.

The "Rig" I spoke of above to not have to run under apportioned plating and IFTA and under 26K total was for a "single" unit not pulling a trailer. If you're planning on putting a second rig as you already have (5500 with a 40 GN) you will have to do the same thing as you're doing with your truck.

Here's an idea.......why not stretch that 5500 and put a 20ft stakebed on it as a second rig to haul oilfield equipment? There's lots of guys contracting with both Ace & ACME who are running with 3500's that have 12-16ft stakebeds on them. That 5500 has a GVCWR of 26K. You could register that truck at 26K, not pull a trailer with it, and run without Apportioned Plating and without filing IFTA. Hell, wouldn't even need a CDL to run that rig as long as you never haul any HazMat loads.

You're on the wrong board for all this.........These guys are in a whole other market/industry/niche than you are involved in. Expediting is a very interesting industry when it comes to what they haul and when they haul it. Check your PM's, I'm sending you a couple of links to where you'll find some "real truckers" hanging out at. ;):D;)
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Hey Bill,

Your 5500 has a GVWR of 19,500. Don't know what axles are under your 40ft GN, but their either 2 7K's or 2 10k's. Hauling oilfield equipment, I bet you're running with 2 10K's, thus making your trailer in the 20K GVCWR range. You probably have your truck "registered" at 26K, and are running a total weight rating on your IRP and Apportioned plates at between 36-38K. Right???

With this set-up, there is no avoiding apportioned plating and IFTA filings.

The "Rig" I spoke of above to not have to run under apportioned plating and IFTA and under 26K total was for a "single" unit not pulling a trailer. If you're planning on putting a second rig as you already have (5500 with a 40 GN) you will have to do the same thing as you're doing with your truck.

Here's an idea.......why not stretch that 5500 and put a 20ft stakebed on it as a second rig to haul oilfield equipment? There's lots of guys contracting with both Ace & ACME who are running with 3500's that have 12-16ft stakebeds on them. That 5500 has a GVCWR of 26K. You could register that truck at 26K, not pull a trailer with it, and run without Apportioned Plating and without filing IFTA. Hell, wouldn't even need a CDL to run that rig as long as you never haul any HazMat loads.

You're on the wrong board for all this.........These guys are in a whole other market/industry/niche than you are involved in. Expediting is a very interesting industry when it comes to what they haul and when they haul it. Check your PM's, I'm sending you a couple of links to where you'll find some "real truckers" hanging out at. ;):D;)



Real Truckers. I like that!!!
 

zero3nine

Veteran Expediter
we were passed, on i-70, by an s-10 leased to c&m last year.
an s-10? really?

Uhhhhh.... question ..... how many years has it been since Chevy actually built an S10??? LOL

I sold my Peterbilt along with the Trail King goose back in 2005... been running an E350 van ever since. Swapped out the rear leafs and front coils for a custom set from Deaver. 10750 GVW even though some folks might try to tell you its illegal or impossible or both.

Magnetic signs from 3 different courier companies and another set with my own MC and DOT for when I run a brokered load. No hazmat, no log books, California plates with Georgia insurance and a medical card. Own houses in both states...

I've seen all kinds of vehicles everywhere I go. Twenty years in the on-demand delivery industry leaves me generally unsurprised at this point. Used to have a driver with a 12 foot flat rack on the roof of his Ford Escort wagon. Could hold a full lift of PVC and get paid like a stakebed.



fired at you from my Droideka
 
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